PODCAST! – Around the Water Cooler: “The Originals” – Reflections on Season One and Recapping Seasons Two and Three (MAJOR SPOILERS)


Moderator: Chief Couch Potato Kylie


Who:  “The Originals,” currently airs on network TV, specifically on the CW, though the show is currently on hiatus and will remain on hiatus until mid-season 2016-2017.

What: “The Originals,” a spin-off of supernatural drama “The Vampire Diaries,” centers on the Original (i.e. very first) vampires, the Mikaelsons, who initially appeared on the latter show.  The surviving siblings are hybrid werewolf/vampire Niklaus (Joseph Morgan), his older brother Elijah (the super hot Daniel Gillies), and baby sister Rebekah (Claire Holt).


In a backdoor pilot that aired during season 4 of The Vampire Diaries, the viewer learned that the Mikaelsons essentially helped to create New Orleans, and Klaus, running from various personal dilemmas including his own ego and Mystic Falls in general, returned to New Orleans where he encountered one of his progeny sires, specifically Marcel (Charles Michael Davis), who has taken control of the French Quarter and has declared war on other supernatural beings, including a local coven of witches.  Klaus covets Marcel’s power and hold over the city. Klaus’ brother Elijah follows Klaus to New Orleans, learning that a one-night stand he had with werewolf Hayley (Phoebe Tonkin) has resulted in her being mysteriously pregnant, as vampires are not known to have children.  This program follows Klaus and the other Original siblings as they work to protect their family and this unborn and unlikely child from the clutches of egomaniac Marcel, Klaus’ prized pupil, and other forces who threaten her.

When:  Season One aired from October 3, 2013, to May 13, 2014; Season Two aired from October 6, 2014, to May 11, 2015; and Season Three aired from October 8, 2015, to May 20, 2016.

Where: The show is set in New Orleans, Louisiana.

Why: This panel, all members of CPU!’s The Vampire Diaries panel, feeling TVD to be a darn good show with some of the same creative influence, including Executive Producer Julie Plec as well as the charismatic Morgan and Gillies, saw no reason that The Originals could not be just as juicy and delicious as the show from whence it spun.  Also, have I mentioned…vampires?  The non-sparkly kind?  Played by ridiculously handsome men? With accents?  The members of this panel were particularly helpless to resist.

How – as in How’s It Going? (THOUGHTS…at present)

It’s been a while since CPU! covered The Originals, another of the Chief Couch Potato’s favorite shows; in fact, CPU! Chief Kylie briefly covered the show in blog format during season one, here and here.  As before, you can blame it on starting this whole podcast business.  Better yet – rather than assign blame, let’s just agree to make the show, with a whole new and fascinating set of ancient and familial vampires – the Original vampires, in fact – a candidate for the podcast, especially since your main moderator is always playing catch-up, okay?!

To wit, feast your fangs on this new CPU! podcast episode, to which this viewer invited a small but robust panel, including CPU! regulars Jen and Allie, familiar voices from our panel covering The Originals’ parent show, The Vampire Diaries. In so doing, we play catch up with the siblings Mikaelson, including noble but repressed older brother Elijah (Gillies), werewolf/vampire hybrid and narcissistic middle child Klaus (Morgan), and the many supporting characters that hover in their orbit, spanning the time since CPU! last checked in on the first season.  We cover major plot points from seasons one through three: from Klaus and Elijah’s triumphant return to NOLA in the wake of werewolf Hayley’s (Tonkin) pregnancy, to the resurrection and body jumping of their abusive parents and vengeful brothers Finn and Kol; from the occasional appearances of sister Rebekah (Claire Holt) to the introduction of long-lost eldest sister Freya (Riley Voelkel), the First Sires, and the brewing war between the Sire Lines, to the demise of several key regular characters.  Our panel’s devotion to The Originals is both devout and confirmed higher and more fervent than for The Vampire Diaries, as the panelists feel that plot of this show is more sophisticated and the situations, therefore, more adult.  Give us a listen, with your precious piece of the White Oak nearby, and see if you agree or disagree with our thoughts.

This podcast was recorded in September 2016, and there are, without question, MAJOR SPOILERS, as the panelists cover key plot points of the first three seasons. Listen at your own risk, and let us know what you think by commenting below!

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Questions, Impressions, and Future Considerations

Old Questions from Prior Season One Coverage

1) Klaus is so capricious, it’s difficult to determine where his heart truly lies, and that may be the ultimate question of the show: what, really, does Klaus want in the end?  I have a feeling only Cami (Leah Pipes) will be able to get to the bottom of it – or someone like her.

ANSWER: Chief CPU! Kylie was very astute in 2014.  The ultimate question of the show, really, is can Klaus be redeemed for the millennium of sins he has committed since he was converted to a vampire; Elijah, Rebekah, and Cami all believe it is possible, while others are more reluctant, understandably, to see that possibility.  Though it didn’t happen until seasons two and three, Cami practiced some Masters-student level psychology/therapy on the complicated Klaus and was able to identify some of his true impulses.  It turns out that Klaus is a ball of ego, daddy issues, an abandonment complex, and true devotion to his dysfunctional and incredibly old family – and that it will probably take a millennium to unravel the millennium of psychoses and murderous impulses and hurt feelings haunting Klaus since he became a vampire.  Personally, I like a Klaus that walks the line of sensitive and unscrupulous, but we’ll keep following where the show takes this character.

2) If werewolves in the bayou are connected to Klaus’ biological father, and some of those werewolves are Hayley’s family, does that mean there is the possibility that Klaus and Hayley are distant cousins generations removed as well as parents of a new kind of hybrid? Does this fact explain the possibility of the baby?

ANSWER: How Hope came about remains a key question, and I think the show shied away from suggesting that Klaus and Hayley might be distantly related by instead marking that Hayley is part of the Crescent Wolves pack, and that Klaus and his biological father are related to one of six other main werewolf packs.  Of course, we haven’t met the Original Werewolf yet, so who knows.  Perhaps, they are interrelated in a more direct way than vampires who make other vampires.

3) Davina (Danielle Campbell) is annoying.  Please make her go away.

ANSWER: Sage advice – be careful what you wish for; she became less annoying, but season three suggests that wishes may come true, in a permanent type way.

4) I don’t understand the romance between Marcel and Rebekah.  I see no sense of chemistry between those two actors.  Rebekah always comes off like a spoiled brat, and Marcel vacillates between survivor, vengeful victim, corrupt politician, and protector of all.  Maybe it’s the opposites attract thing.

ANSWER: The feelings between these two characters are still somewhat unexplained; from what CPU! Chief Kylie can figure, their bond is bolstered by the commonality of abuse by Klaus.  They were both victims of Klaus’ games and whims, and this sense of shared victim-hood became the seed of their romance.  Rebekah and Marcel have morphed and evolved as characters since the first season, but the foundations of their characters are not far off these initial impressions.  Of course, the romance may be over as of the end of the third season, since Marcel has become a new type of super vampire/werewolf hybrid being, and since Rebekah attempted to protect her brother Klaus from the vengeance of his many wronged sires, Marcel included.

5) Elijah is seriously underutilized on this show.  Daniel Gillies is such a beautiful man, and his character is tall, dark, handsome, and mysterious.  I want to know everything about his past, and why he places so much faith in Klaus, when Klaus disappoints him repeatedly and has done so for centuries.  I want to know why he and Hayley are so strongly drawn to each other.  I want him to always wear suits, and I want Elijah to suss out Rebekah’s affair with Marcel and weigh in.

ANSWER: Wishes really do come true.  This is not a Klaus-centric show as I initially feared, and the writers do well to balance the histories of the various Mikaelson siblings, Elijah included.  Seasons two and three were especially kind to his back story (and the reason he wears suits).

6) I don’t love the character of Cami, but I do hope she somehow outsmarts Klaus without going insane from her conflicting/compelled memory losses.

ANSWER: She challenges him enough to induce him to no longer compel away her memories, which causes his affection for her to grow.  Unfortunately, Klaus and love do not seem to mix, if the lessons we learn in the third season are any indication (listen to the podcast).

7) Have I mentioned that Tyler Lockwood, Klaus’ erstwhile hybrid sire from The Vampire Diaries, in a mission to defeat Klaus, stopped by the bayou – not without ending his sweet and saccharine relationship with Caroline Forbes on TVD?  Except – he left again.  Where did he go? He hasn’t returned to Mystic Falls.  Why is this character a part-time character on either show at best?

ANSWER: This is still a question.  Why demote Michael Trevino to part time or occasional guest on either of these shows?  Why not just write him off the show and give him a good send off in the process?

New Questions

1) Will baby Hope be the savior that helps her father Klaus (currently stabbed by Marcel to an incapacitated state with the knife of perpetual torment) and her uncles Elijah and Kol and aunt Rebekah to survive their various fates, spelled away with the help of Freya, after the machinations of Marcel rendered them near death?

2) Are Cami and Davina (SPOILER) officially and permanently dead?  If they aren’t, how could they possibly come back?

3) Will Kol and his portraying actor be made a series regular in season four?  The panel, particularly CPU! Chief Kylie, votes yes.

4) Will there be a seven-year time jump, as Allie seems to have learned from some comic con panels?  If so, where will we find out characters after that time?

5) What is Hope really: a vampire, a werewolf, a witch, a hybrid, or a combination of any of the above?

6) Will Hayley and Elijah just give into each other?  The smoldering sexual tension is sexy but head-scratching in how they work so hard to resist each other.


The Originals, though not the twisty soap opera characterizing its parent program, has become superior television, spinning an epic and seductive tale with increasingly engaging acting and beautiful actors doing the work.  The writers have created a steamy and sophisticated mix of horror, revenge fantasy, and romance, capitalizing on all of the best elements of vampire lore, while providing a considerably more adult direction for this spin-off of angst-driven The Vampire Diaries and an unusual spin on the usual vampire fantasy.  The story still does its best in being grand and twisty, though, and completely accessible to anyone who hasn’t watched TVD.  The panel very much hopes that this spin-off continues to survive, as consensus of the panel has led us to conclude that The Originals has become a far better show than The Vampire Diaries, especially given that the latter show’s days are officially numbered.


The Originals was renewed for a fourth season; however, it is not slated to premiere until January 2017.  Hopefully, this delayed premiere does not signal a death knell for this show, as it has been announced that the upcoming eighth season of The Vampire Diaries will be its last. Because of the delayed premiere, CPU! will not revisit The Originals again until summer 2017.  Until then!


One comment

  1. kyliekeelee · September 23, 2016

    Reblogged this on Reel Musings.

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