Moderated by: Chief Couch Potato Kylie
Who: “DC’s Legends of Tomorrow” is a superhero/action-adventure drama centered on events and characters inspired by the DC Comic Universe, which currently airs on the CW, fall to spring Tuesdays at 9:00 PM.
What: “DC’s Legends of Tomorrow,” a series developed by Greg Berlanti, Marc Guggenheim, Andrew Kreisberg, and Phil Klemmer, based on characters from DC Comics. This series is considered a spin-off from Arrow and is part of the so-called “Arrowverse.”
When Vandal Savage murders Time Master Rip Hunter’s (Arthur Darvill) family, he goes rogue. Intending to stop Savage, Rip recruits a team consisting of Ray Palmer / The Atom (Brandon Routh); Sara Lance / White Canary (Caity Lotz); Martin Stein (Victor Garber) and Jefferson “Jax” Jackson (Franz Drameh), who together become the hero Firestorm; Kendra Saunders / Hawkgirl; Carter Hall / Hawkman; Leonard Snart / Captain Cold; and Mick Rory / Heat Wave (Dominic Purcell) to stop him. These so-called “legends” discover that the Time Masters are backing Savage in his domination of the world in 2166 in order to facilitate a successful repulsion of a Thanagarian invasion.
When: Season Two aired on the CW from October 13, 2016, to April 4, 2017.
Where: The action is set in various locations throughout the DC Television Universe/Arrowverse and throughout time, as the heroes in this show travel through time and space in an attempt to stop villains who aim to alter significant events in past, present, and future.
Why: To find out why individual podcast panelists started watching this show, listen to the podcast episode via the link below! It should be noted that CPU! Chief Couch Potato Kylie previously picked up this show during the 2015 Fall Preview, noting:
True it’s yet another comic book property in an entertainment complex completely inundated and saturated with them – super heroes are what’s cool nowadays. True, the premise involves digging through the annals of the DC Comic Book Universe to put forth some of the company’s less omnipresent characters (The Atom, Firestorm, Hawkgirl, to name a few). Yet: it also has Victor Garber, Wentworth Miller, and freaking Rory Pond – Arthur Darvill himself!…DC is behind in the comic book race against Marvel, and the company knows it…[it’s a] must watch. It’s fate or something.
How – as in How’s It Going? – THOUGHTS
This is the seventh episode in CPU!’s DCTU series. Here are the prior episodes in the series (as we flush out seasons, though, older episodes will only be searchable via the website – click the upper right dialog box in the header). Listen to each episode here:
DCTU Series, Episode 1, “Arrow,” Seasons One and Two
DCTU Series, Episode 2, “Arrow,” Seasons Three and Four
DCTU Series, Episode 3, “The Flash,” Seasons One and Two
DCTU Series, Episode 4, “DC’s Legends of Tomorrow,” Season One
DCTU Series, Episode 5, “Supergirl,” Season One
DCTU Series, Episode 6, the DCTU Mid-Season Roundup
In our last episode, our cheeky and feisty and newly full DCTU panel – namely Kyle, Hilary, Spencer, Kristen, and Nick – was subjected to (now for) something completely different and highly experimental here at CPU! when we decided to check in with each other in advance of season’s end via a “Newlywed Game” style interview episode in which each of the panelists provided individual feedback about all four “Arrowverse” shows. Now, as the new Arrowverse seasons commence (and last night’s premiere coincides with this episode nicely), we finally address the most recent full seasons of each of the four “Arrowverse” in order of the airing of each season finale, beginning with the second season of DC’s Legends of Tomorrow. Thus, tonight’s episode features our spicy discussion of Legends’ sophomore season, in the seventh episode of our DCTU series. The discussion is truly spicy too – the opinions about this particular spin-off vary greatly, though none of them offer unmitigated love for this disjointed tale of wacky adventures through time for a team of DC Comics’ lesser known and/or lesser used heroes and villains.
This particular episode was recorded in October 2017, and there are, without question, MAJOR SPOILERS, as the panelists cover key plot points of the Season Two of DC’s Legends of Tomorrow. Listen at your own risk, and let us know what you think by commenting below!
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Questions, Impressions, and Future Considerations
1) It was announced that John Constantine (as played by Matt Ryan) will appear on Legends some time during Season 3. In how many episodes will he appear, and what will be his purpose? Will he be on the show for several episodes, as a recurring character? Or, will he only appear once or twice as he did in Arrow?
2) It was also announced that Victor Garber will leave the show by the end of the season. Will the character of Firestorm survive? Will the show survive without Dr. Martin Stein, less Rip Hunter, and a nearly non-existent Captain Cold (Wentworth Miller)?
3) If Amaya/Vixen (Maisie Richardson-Sellers) and Nate/Steel (Nick Zano) continue their love affair, does this mean that Nate is somehow grandfather to Amaya’s granddaughter, Mari/the new Vixen?
4) Arthur Darvill is being converted to a “recurring” cast member and will not be part of the regular cast as he was for the first two seasons. How much Rip will we see, and how will his new band of Time Masters, which he suggested in the second season finale that he planned to rebuild, interact with the Legends and the broken universe?
5) Will we see any of the Legion of Doom again (Reverse Flash, as played by Matt Letscher; Malcolm Merlyn, as played by John Barrowman; Damien Darhrk, as played by Neal McDonough; and Captain Cold)?
6) Will Mick/Heat Wave (Dominic Purcell) ever get to Aruba?
7) Did the Legends encountering their past selves in the World War I era cause the aberrations and altered Earth they find in 2016? Or, is this extremely altered timeline a product of all of their “Legend”-ary exploits? How will they fix it?
8) Will Jonah Hex become a regular character, as is rumored?
9) Who is the new character being introduced – and is this person supposed to be another “Legend?”
10) Considering how “Flashpoint” was handled on The Flash last season, how much of the altered timeline will affect the other shows? Will we see spillover into Arrow/Flash (I tend to give Supergirl a pass because she’s on Earth 23)?
11) How much of Season 3 will involve the Legends restoring the timeline?
Our DCTU panel nearly unanimously withdraws previous recommendations for DC’s Legends of Tomorrow, unless the potential viewer is strictly a fan of comic books, particularly (and probably only) from the DC universe, and of the individual comic franchises being represented, including Firestorm, the Atom, and the Flash, given the presence of Captain Cold and Heat Wave; to fans of Doctor Who who are looking for some sort of comic book equivalent of their beloved long-running science fiction show, provided that they are not angered by rip-offs; or to fans of the other Arrowverse shows. The panel believes, however, that anyone who falls within the above descriptions has probably already tuned into “Legends” at least once and has drawn their own conclusions, for better or for worse. All in all, with the possible exception of panelist Nick, the panel remains generally lukewarm toward this series; though all panelists want to keep watching for some reason or another, a couple of panelists, your moderator and Chief CP included, described doing so to be a borderline “chore.” Hopefully, the creators see the necessity of balancing camp and wacky antics with something close to a story containing some small modicum of continuity. Further, with the apparent bleeding of some of the most charismatic and beloved ensemble actors and characters, “Legends” has its work cut out for it in terms of compensating for such losses – but will have to attempt such compensation in order to avoid being the first Arrowverse program to suffer the swing of the cancellation ax.
The third season of DC’s Legends of Tomorrow premiered last night (October 10, 2017) at 9:00 PM on the CW. CPU!’s next DCTU episode, which will focus on the second season of Supergirl, will (hopefully) go to publication next week. Like, follow, and/or subscribe to the blog, iTunes, YouTube, Stitcher Radio, Google Play, or our social media accounts to stay abreast of new episodes in the DCTU podcast series as well as of new episodes for all of our podcast panels! And, if you feel so inclined, please leave us a review. Thank you!🙂
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