The 100 (Seasons 1-3, MAJOR SPOILERS)


A new (and, yet again, unusually long!) podcast episode of Couch Potatoes Unite!, which is based on a blog of the same name hosted at In this episode, recorded in December 2016, our panel of CPU! Skaikru – including moderator Kylie, Allie, Kelsey, and Selene – is Around the Water Cooler and catching up on Seasons 1-3, with particular emphasis on Seasons 2 and 3, of The 100.  We discuss everything from the 100 teen criminals banding together to fend off Grounder attacks, to the introduction of the Grounder clans (and their leader, Lexa), to the exploration of Mount Weather and those humans sheltered from the apocalypse (and the war for the ground), to proliferation of ALIE and the effect that this particularly aggressive artificial intelligence has on Skaikru and Grounder and Mountain Man alike.  If you have not watched any of The 100, be aware that there are MAJOR SPOILERS! Tell us what you think in the comments below and check out the blog and YouTube for other TV related discussions, in both podcast and blog format. Also, if there are other shows you’re interested in the blog covering, sound off below! Tell us what you like or don’t like. Keep the discussion going!

PODCAST! – Around the Water Cooler: “The 100” – Reflections on Season One and Recapping Seasons Two and Three (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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Moderator: Chief Couch Potato Kylie


Who:  “The 100,” currently airs on network TV, specifically on the CW, Wednesdays at 9:00 PM.

What: “The 100,” a science fiction drama set nearly 100 years into the future.  According to the preliminary season one voice-over, in the fictional near future, Earth is ravaged by nuclear warfare, irradiating the planet’s surface. Survivors flee to space stations orbiting the Earth; 100 years into the future, the lives of the mere thousands of the survivors’ descendants aboard the “Ark” are threatened again, as the oxygen and life support reserves dwindle, and the machinery aboard the conglomeration of space stations degrades.  The only hope for the human race centers on the heartiness of 100 adolescent prisoners, chosen for their penchant for breaking the rules, who are sent to the planet’s surface to sniff out whether humanity can return to its original home and persevere.  The 100 are a mixture of society’s elite and its most oppressed; the resulting stew becomes something very similar to Lord of the Flies – except, as the 100 accept and embrace their new-found freedom, they realize they are not alone.


Humanity survives a nuclear holocaust in the fictional near future that irradiates the planet’s surface, sending what remains of the human race into space to fend for their lives aboard several international space stations, which are eventually joined together to become the “Ark.” One hundred years into the future, humanity is in danger once again, as the century-old machinery fails, and oxygen supplies dwindle.  The society aboard the Ark is run under strict rules and laws, including population control and discouragement of defiance of the ruling council and its decrees in any way.  The Council is comprised of, among others, Chancellor Thelonius Jaha (Isaiah Washington) and his Vice Chancellor Marcus Kane (Henry Ian Cusick).  They and the chief medical officer, Dr. Abigail Griffin (Paige Turco), decide to send 100 involuntary participants deemed criminals – adolescents incarcerated for various crimes, including illegal space walks and being an unauthorized second child – in order to test the viability of the planet’s surface to sustain human life. Unfortunately, some of the 100 include the chief medical officer’s daughter and the chancellor’s son, among others.  In addition, once the 100 reach the Earth’s surface, despite the fact that they wear bracelets monitoring their health and vital signs, most of them see their situation as a new lease on life and freedom and remove their bracelets in the hopes that the Ark will leave them for dead.  Only Abby’s daughter, Clarke (Eliza Taylor), fights to communicate with the Ark, while others are content to run wild in a new, anarchic society. These two schools of thought are at odds, even as the 100 confront unexpected inhabitants of the new old world.

When: Season One aired from March 19, 2014, to June 11, 2014; Season Two aired from October 22, 2014, to March 11, 2015; and Season Three aired from January 21, 2016, to May 19, 2016.

Where: The action is set in two locations at the outset of the series: in space, aboard the fictitious space station amalgamation known as the “Ark,” and on Earth, in an unknown location at an unidentified crash site.  The adults eventually travel to Earth, foregoing the dying Ark, and set up a settlement, first called “Camp Jaha” and then “Arkadia.”

Why: The Chief CP is always on the hunt for good science fiction; this show offers less science and more fiction, except where the space station is concerned.  Also, it features Henry Ian Cusick, better known as Desmond from Lost, and I have a great affinity for the Lost alumni.  The podcast panelists that I invited to talk about this show with me all found this program in diverse ways.  Listen to the episode for details.

How – as in How’s It Going? (THOUGHTS…at present)

It’s been a while since CPU! covered The 100, as this is yet another show that CPU! Chief Kylie briefly covered in blog format during season one, here, though below are some key passages reprinted, as I am particularly proud of this review, which provides some relevance and foundation for the beginning of the podcast episode:

“Comparing The 100 to Lord of the Flies is not unfair: this show is essentially William Golding’s classic novel, set in the future and partially in space.  Aboard the Ark, there are two factions of ruling adults: those who mercilessly follow the rules, and those who bend them or break them in favor of following the tenets of compassion and humanity.  On the planet’s surface, there are those juveniles who see following the instructions given to them as the only ticket to salvation, while another school of thought and its members are willing to embrace their more primal instincts, including violence and allowing their rampant hormones to run free.  No one’s wearing animal blood yet, and their survival is threatened by more than the elements and mutated creatures evolved from the fictional nuclear holocaust, but The 100 borrows liberally and unmistakably from an obvious source.

“On the one hand, the tweaked premise shows promise: after all, with shows like Survivor on the air, there is a certain freshness to this story and a real sense that though this is set in the fictional future, it’s a not-too-far-distant future where something like the situation being depicted – the planet, ravaged by humanity’s neglect and misuse of technology resulting in potential survivors to flee to space – might be possible.  Presumably, the target audience is the CW’s usual viewership, the 18-34 set, and there is plenty of teenage angst to pepper the story of individual and global survival.  On the other hand, the characters are rather cookie cutter and caricature-like, particularly Cusick’s Kane, who plays an unfeeling bureaucrat in idiosyncratic surroundings with an over the top flourish (and a passable American accent).  In fact, most of the Ark residents are American – a troubling and narrow vantage point for the show to start from, even if it’s an American-made show.  It seems a bit too convenient that the producers did not invest in a pretend future world with a bit more geographical diversity, even if 100 years somehow unified speaking patterns to be more American aboard the Ark.

“Then, there are the actual adolescents, a veritable mixed bag of acting ability.  Taylor is decently convincing, approaching her role with conviction, as is Thomas McDonell as apparent love interest Finn, but the actor portraying the Chancellor’s son and most of the random supporting cast in the younger bracket seems to be angling for after school special or perhaps B-horror film rather than a thrilling kill-or-be-killed survival tale.  The result is that most of the 100 young adults are simply uninteresting, if not unsympathetic, while the adults, in the two episodes that this viewer has watched, though competent in their performances, offer no complexity, playing their two-dimensional roles well within their two dimensions.  Perhaps time and comfort will permit them to stretch…”

As always, blame it on starting the podcast side of CPU! for the long wait for re-visitation of The 100 and then happily promote the show to podcast panel-ship, along with interested CPU! panelists on board to catch us up.  And we’re getting caught up, finally, which you might notice if you follow our “What We’re Currently Watching” page!

In lieu of that crashed and burnt introduction, then, get a load of our new CPU! podcast episode, as CPU! regulars Allie and Kelsey and brand new panelist Selene gather Around the Water Cooler to chat about this newest entry into the annals of teen dystopian fiction. We play catch up with those that crashed aboard the drop ship on a newer, less apocalyptic Earth of the future and with those who tried to survive in space aboard the Ark before choosing to follow the juveniles they sent ahead of themselves, spanning the time since CPU! last checked in on the first season.  We cover major plot points from seasons one through three: from the 100 teen criminals banding together to fend off Grounder attacks, to the introduction of the Grounder clans (and their leader, Lexa), to the exploration of Mount Weather and those humans sheltered from the apocalypse (and the war for the ground), to proliferation of ALIE and the effect that this particularly aggressive artificial intelligence has on Skaikru and Grounder and Mountain Man alike.  Our panel’s devotion to The 100 admittedly waversas the panelists feel that the quality of this show has, itself, wildly wavered, possibly thrusting its best foot forward in the second season, as the writers toy with a revolving door of violent character deaths in a bleakly harsh world.  Give this latest CPU! episode a listen, with an ear to the ground and an eye toward the sky, and see if you agree or disagree with our thoughts.

This podcast was recorded in December 2016, and there are, without question, MAJOR SPOILERS, as the panelists cover key plot points of the first three seasons. Listen at your own risk, and let us know what you think by commenting below!

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Remember, new episodes and blog posts are published weekly! Our next podcast episode will take another break from our mid-season progress reports as we pause to appreciate an oldie but a goody.  We hang out, down the street, the same old thing, we did last week as we sit in the Circle, in our CPU! sponsored basement, and pontificate nostalgically about (i.e. look back at) That ’70s Show. Stay tuned!

Questions, Impressions, and Future Considerations

1) Is Lexa’s essence, as preserved in ALIE’s construct known as the “City of Light,” truly gone?  Or, did she escape the oncoming onslaught of hostile and devoted chipped humans within the construct? If so, where did she go?

2) Is the entire fourth season going to be centered on a hunt for decaying nuclear power plants?  How can Clarke and company possibly solve the conundrum described by ALIE’s creator, who posed that the nuclear power plants would implode within six months?

3) Are there human survivors in other parts of the former USA?  Other parts of the world? Will we meet any of them in this season?  Are there other Grounder clans (aside from Ice Nation, Treekru, etc.)?  Will we meet them?

4) Why should we care that the Earth is dying, given all of the violence and poor judgment of so many characters on this show?  The writers and producers have to convince several members of our panel to keep watching by giving us a reason to care.

5) Will other characters die?  Will they all die?  Will they survive?  Will they have to go back to space to escape the failing nuclear power plants?

6) Does this show possibly have a fifth season in it?  Our panel votes not so much.


The 100 seems to have burned bright and fast only to fizzle into wisps of smoke and ash, confronted as it is by a myriad of puzzling writing decisions that may have painted the show into a corner without chance for entertaining recovery.  The panelists in this podcast episode universally agree that this show starts off with a rocky foundation, relying on minimal and lacking character development as the writers and executive producer, Jason Rothenberg, drive quickly toward the main plot arcs without taking time to lay essential character groundwork.  The panelists also universally agree that the second season may have been the program’s best, with a tightly focused, intense, and brutal depiction of a war for the planet that humanity left behind, except and involving the humanity that remained, survived, and now fights for its home.  The panelists agree that the second season presents clear objectives for the many factions and staggering number of main characters that populate this cast.  Yet, the show falters again in the third season as several plot threads and character decisions remiss of logic established by the first two seasons create an impossible situation facing our characters as the season ends, and as the show tentatively embarks upon its fourth season.  In addition, the pacing of the third season is vastly uneven to the point of disengagement for every panelist, and the violence could be characterized as egregious, as most of the panelists feel that the show is striving to be network television’s Game of Thrones equivalent but for the less interesting story motivating the violence.  In fact, overall, the panelists find The 100 derivative of many sources and inspirations (apart from Lord of the Flies) and hampered by the seeming aim of the writers to try to “one up” themselves with each passing episode, to a point that the fourth season must now rely upon Clarke and the rest of her cohorts to prevent a second nuclear annihilation, despite all of the harrowing life and death drama that the characters have faced up until this point. This far-reaching story goal leaves the panel lukewarm and not looking forward to the fourth season; in fact, two of the panelists have nearly entirely jumped the shark, while the other two panelists are electing to persevere for completion’s sake and nothing else.  Will the writers absolve the show’s weaker aspects as The 100 cruises toward season’s end, thereby preventing cancellation?  Or, will the “all over the place” nature of the storytelling continue, despite a lack of consistent success, paving the road toward a series rather than a season end?  How’s the season going so far, since this episode is being published on the night that the third episode of the fourth season airs?  Tell us in the comments!


The 100 was renewed for a fourth season, which premiered on February 1, 2017.  Does this yet again delayed premiere, and the show’s inconsistent schedule, signal a death knell for this series? Time will tell, since this program was not one of the CW network’s early renewals. Because of the delayed season premiere, CPU! will not revisit The 100 again until after the fourth season finale, most likely in summer 2017.  As always, CPU! will keep you informed of news and additional 100 coverage.  Until then!

The Vampire Diaries, Season 8A (MAJOR SPOILERS)


A new podcast episode of Couch Potatoes Unite!, which is based on a blog of the same name hosted at In this episode, recorded in January 2017, our less small but more robust panel– including moderator Kylie, Jen, Kelsey, and Allie – is Around the Water Cooler and discussing Season 8A of The Vampire Diaries, including two Siren Sisters and this show’s version of the “Devil.” If you have not watched any of The Vampire Diaries, be aware that there are MAJOR SPOILERS! Tell us what you think in the comments below and check out the blog and YouTube for other TV related discussions, in both podcast and blog format. Also, if there are other shows you’re interested in the blog covering, sound off below! Tell us what you like or don’t like. Keep the discussion going!

PODCAST! – Around the Water Cooler: “The Vampire Diaries” – The Season 8 Mid-Season Recap and Progress Report (MAJOR SPOILERS)


Moderator: Chief Couch Potato Kylie


Who: “The Vampire Diaries” airs on network TV, specifically on the CW, Fridays at 8:00 PM.

What: “The Vampire Diaries,” a supernatural teen drama focused on a young woman, Elena Gilbert, who becomes entangled with two brothers who are vampires–-one a soulful, conflicted type who wants to repress his vampire urges to be more human; the other a sarcastic, ne’er-do-well who embraces the nature of his nocturnal condition, except for when his love for Elena interferes. In addition, these two vampire brothers were sired by Elena’s doppelganger, a vampire for the centuries named Katherine Pierce (for a more detailed Synopsis, read here:

When: The Season 8 premiere aired on Friday, October 21, 2016, at 8:00 PM on the CW.

Where: The show is primarily set in the fictional town of Mystic Falls, Virginia.

Why: Two reasons: vampires and Ian Somerhalder, formerly of Lost and Smallville fame. CPU! Chief Couch Potato Kylie loves non-sparkly vampire television, and Ian Somerhalder is too beautiful a man not to find an excuse to watch.  My fellow panelists found the show due to the vampires as well, and at least thirty-three percent of them stayed for Ian…

How – as in How’s It Going? (THOUGHTS…at present)

In 2016, our Vampire Diaries panel helped to catch CPU! up on this program by discussing seasons five, six, and the first half of season seven.  We also covered, in great detail, the second half of the seventh season in a second episode.  To hear our thoughts, or to catch yourself up, listen to the embedded links below:

Seasons 5-7A

Season 7B

Halfway into what has been announced to be this long-running vampire fiction program’s eighth season, our less small but continuously robust panel–Jen, Kelsey, and Allie–reconvened to discuss the dysfunctional but smoldering brothers Salvatore and the rest of the motley crew hailing from fictional Mystic Falls as The Vampire Diaries winds down toward its series finale.  Feast your ears and/or your fangs on this new episode, in which we cover major plot points from the first half of season eight, as the audience is introduced to the monster from the Vault: a siren sister with a stronghold on Damon (Ian Somerhalder) and buddy Enzo (Michael Malarkey).  While our panel’s particular devotion and/or sire bond is frequently tested in TVD’s later seasons, we still have lots to think and to talk about, particularly as we speculate upon the show’s near and final future.  Give us a listen with your vampire super-hearing, and see if you agree or disagree with our thoughts.

This podcast was recorded in January 2017, and there are, without question, MAJOR SPOILERS, as the panelists cover key plot points of the first half of the eighth season. Listen at your own risk, and let us know what you think by commenting below!

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Remember, new episodes and blog posts are published weekly!  Next Wednesday, we will introduce an all new podcast panel, as we catch CPU! up on the dystopian post-apocalyptic science fiction drama, also from the CW, entitled The 100, for a longer-than-usual and highly passionate episode.  Stay tuned!

Questions, Impressions, and Future Considerations

Old Questions

1) Will Matt return?  Will Tyler?  Will Jeremy?  Will Elena?

ANSWER: (see below)

Matt Donovan (Zach Roerig) returns.  He steers clear of Mystic Falls for a short while, as he sought out his dad, who had left him, his mom, and Vicki when Matt was younger.  Matt protects his dad with vervain, but Damon looks for Matt’s dad as he hunts for an artifact that Matt’s dad possesses as a member of one of the Mystic Falls founding families, which forces Matt to become involved in the goings-on of Mystic Falls once more.

Tyler Lockwood (Michael Trevino) confronts Damon while Mr. Salvatore is on the road during his siren-induced vampire binger.  Damon responds to Tyler’s hesitant confrontation by snapping his neck and killing Tyler during his two second guest spot. So…RIP Tyler.  Matt is particularly distraught after learning of the death of his best friend and vows vengeance against Damon after this event.

Jeremy Gilbert has not yet returned – he’s hanging out on the “Chicago” franchise, over on another network, apparently. Will he yet return?  There’s always hope.

Elena Gilbert (Nina Dobrev) WILL return.  It was announced in January that Nina Dobrev would return to film the series finale, and Dobrev herself Instagram-ed a picture of her script.  I’m assuming this means that Elena will awaken from her magical coma.  I assume this also means that Bonnie (Kat Graham) might die, since Elena’s life and consciousness is inversely related to Bonnie’s ability to survive.

2) Is Season 8 the show’s last, considering that Ian Somerhalder has told the press that he can’t see doing more than eight seasons of the show (and the podcast panel can’t see the show surviving without Somerhalder/Damon)?

ANSWER: The show’s producers and the network have all confirmed that season 8 will be the final season of The Vampire Diaries.

3) What is in the Vault?  What has possessed Damon and Enzo?

ANSWER: One member of a pair of deadly sirens, i.e. the mystical beings first introduced in Homer’s Odyssey that magically sing and lure men, usually aboard ships at sea, to their demise.  The particular siren in question sports the moniker Sybil and takes a special interest in Damon and Enzo by singing her way into their enraptured brains and forcing them to murder people, as she is required to eat flesh to maintain immortality, youth, and beauty while harvesting the damned souls of these poor sods for a larger, darker power.  Damon and Enzo react differently to her particular form of sway: Damon elects to turn off his emotion switch, despite entering a safe space in his brain on which he focuses upon Elena.  When Sybil discovers this, she performs psychic surgery and replaces memories of Elena with similar memories featuring Sybil instead, ensuring Damon’s enduring fealty to her (at least for awhile). Enzo, on the other hand, is so devoted to Bonnie, he combats the siren’s cry for a time, at least until Damon and Sybil conspire to trick Enzo into turning off his own emotion switch, leaving Bonnie to decide that she must risk burning herself alive to entice Enzo back to humane vampirism in order to preserve their love. Listen to the podcast for details.

4)  Why was Reina a red herring for Elena/Katherine?  Cheap shot, writers!

ANSWER: We’ve decided, on the panel, that Damon has a type.  Sybil looks remarkably like Elena as well…

5) Will Alaric return?  Will his children return?  Will they be evil Children of the Corn, half siphon/half vampire children?

ANSWER: Alaric (Matt Davis) returns as does his children, so that he and Caroline (Candice King) can co-parent the girls.  One of the siren sisters, Seline, tries to offer up the twins to be the keeper of the sirens’ immortal Faustian deal, but Stefan (Paul Wesley) intervenes and prevents that deal from going down, so the twins remain innocent (but definitely siphons) as ever.

6) Are Damon and Enzo collecting bodies in sacrifice or in ritual to the thing from the Vault?  Is there a purpose to the warehouse of suspended but highly dead bodies?  Is the Vault thing controlling them, or are they acting of their own free will but in service of the thing in the Vault?

ANSWER: The siren’s cry tends to obfuscate free will and spellbound enslavement. Arguably, as Damon and Enzo show us, the siren’s cry is strong, but enough strength and will to resist can break the spell for some time, as it did with Enzo, in lieu of his love for Bonnie.  Damon could have done the same, if he didn’t feel beholden to a comatose Elena and a sense of guilt for his sins; he believes his service to Sybil is penance for his misdeeds as a vampire, so he opts to flip his emotion switch to withstand the poor judgment and murder sprees in which Sybil has him engage.  The warehouse scene merely serves as a grisly end button to season seven, but the bodies are a sacrifice to Sybil’s siren-infused flesh-eating appetite.

7) Are Damon, Stefan, and/or Enzo connected to the Vault thing somehow?  Or, is Bonnie connected to it?

ANSWER: There appears to be no connection, per se, between any of our beloved characters and Sybil, except insofar as Damon and Enzo are under her spell, and Bonnie’s family provided the sealant magic for the Armory Vault that hitherto contained her.  Still, Sybil, Seline, and their boss Cade, possibly The Vampire Diaries’ analog for the Devil, repeatedly draw stark parallels between the brothers Salvatore and the Siren Sisters, showing that there is a blurring of what is good and evil among them, particularly as it relates to who is the good sibling and who is the evil one.  Listen to the podcast for details.

8) Is the Vault thing something akin to the First Evil or the First Supernatural Something, a la Buffy the Vampire Slayer or Supernatural?

ANSWER: The sirens are not the First, nor are they the Darkness (as Supernatural depicts).  Cade created the Sirens.  We know that Cade was a psychic, martyred for being different by suffering stoning and burning at the hands of his fellow villagers.  Their negative energy created a so-called “hell.”  What this “hell” is or how Cade became psychic we don’t know.  We also don’t know who came first: Cade or the Originals, i.e. the family Mikaelson as the first vampires, or the Mikaelson matriarch Esther and her family of magical witches.  The history, to the members of the podcast panel, is unclear.

9) Are Caroline and Stefan really in it and together for the long haul?

ANSWER: Well, Stefan pops the question, in a rather anticlimactic way, and Caroline answers yes.  Trouble is, as of the season finale, Stefan, to save the twins and Damon, makes a deal with Cade: he and Damon will take the place of the Siren Sisters, harvesting souls for him.  In the meantime, Stefan is required by Cade to flip his emotion switch and to become Ripper Stefan, a side of soulful Stefan that intrigues Cade.  Cade promises that Stefan can return to Caroline one year after living under these conditions – but the dark figure bets that Stefan will not want to stop being the Ripper, since Ripper Stefan seems to relish his evilness even more than an emotionless Damon.  The last moments of the mid-season finale show Stefan and Damon driving away to do Cade’s bidding, the cold dark eyes of Ripper Stefan becoming apparent as Stefan’s emotion switch visibly flips.  Will Stefan make it back to Caroline?  Do we care? These are the questions that follow us into the show’s final half season.

New Questions

1) What is the artifact that Matt’s dad had, and what does it do?  Who has it now?  Do we still care about it?

2) Will Jeremy (Steven R. McQueen) return to The Vampire Diaries to see it off as one of the original cast members?

3) So, Elena will return.  How?  Kylie predicts that, in order to save Damon, Bonnie will sacrifice herself, so that Elena might awaken from her coma and draw Damon away from the darkness of his emotional void once more.  Kelsey predicts that Enzo and Bonnie might snuff themselves together, in a fantastic Thelma and Louise or, perhaps, Romeo and Juliet type fashion.  Kylie further predicts that Stefan might not survive the series – he may decide to remain the Ripper, and the other Mystic Falls residents, Caroline included, may be forced to stake him; or, the writers will cop out, and Stefan and Caroline will reunite for their happily ever after.  What will happen?  How will it all end?

4) Will the twins be factors in saving the brothers Salvatore from themselves or Alaric/Caroline/anyone else from Stefan and Damon?

5) Damon ripped out Sybil’s heart on his way out of town with Stefan in the mid-season finale, but we know that Sybil can heal due to her magical deal to keep her immortality, which she made with Cade in exchange for selling out Stefan and Damon.  Will we still see Sybil, and how will she factor into the overall end?  Where did Seline go?  Are we done with the Siren Sisters?

6) Who or what is Cade – really?  Who came first: him, the Originals, or the Witches?  Will we see a mutual crossover with The Originals, the spin-off of The Vampire Diaries, this half season?  If so, can it be the whole cast and not merely an exchange of one character, like Klaus and Stefan, as happened last season?

7) What will Damon and Stefan do as Cade’s new soul harvesters?  How will their brotherly bond be affected?  Ripper Stefan is kind of a dick, but Damon also has his emotion switch off.  We’ve never seen both brothers with their emotion switch off at the same time except during flashbacks of their initial days as vampires.  How will this manifest, and what will they do?

8) What will the Mystic Falls Scooby Gang, particularly Caroline, do to try to save the brothers from themselves?

9) Why was Cade not introduced sooner, if he’s truly the “devil?”

10) What is “hell” truly?  How did the pre-devil version of Cade become psychic?


The Vampire Diaries definitely has its best years behind it; the panel believes that though the show has lost much of its initial magic, not unlike Bonnie herself, the first half of season eight made a valiant effort to recapture some of that former glory in time to send the series off with a bang (and a few fangs!).  Most if not all of the panelists are ready for The Vampire Diaries to be done but are simultaneously excited by the second half of season eight and what the final half season will bring to end this epic story of two vampire brothers and the women that came between them, which is what, ultimately, TVD was all about in the end.  We think that the talented writing team will offer up a satisfying conclusion, which ought to include Damon and Elena back together, Bonnie resting and at peace (that poor girl), and everyone else in a place that makes sense.  If anyone can do it, Julie Plec and company should be able to do it!  We also hope the wrap party following these eight interesting seasons is as epic as the series itself.


The Vampire Diaries returned from mid-season 8 hiatus on January 13, 2017. The Vampire Diaries podcast panel will next reconvene following the eighth season and overall series finale of TVD, which will likely air in or around May 2017, with a two-part goodbye series of podcast episodes. The first of these episodes will review the show’s final half season; the second will look back at the show as a whole.  Of course, the announcement that this will be the show’s final season was made as of early fall 2016. As always, even for the limited amount of time remaining, CPU! will keep you informed of news and additional TVD coverage.  Until then!

Supernatural (Season 12A, MAJOR SPOILERS)


A new podcast episode of Couch Potatoes Unite!, which is based on a blog of the same name hosted at In this episode, recorded in December 2016, our now full panel of unabashed Super-Fans – including moderator Kylie, Nick, Jen, Kelsey, Allie, and new panelist Jeremy – is Around the Water Cooler and discussing Season 12A (following the mid-season finale) of Supernatural, including the brothers (and mother) Winchester, angel Castiel, demon Crowley, and the ongoing shenanigans of Lucifer. If you have not watched any of Supernatural, be aware that there are MAJOR SPOILERS! Tell us what you think in the comments below and check out the blog and YouTube for other TV related discussions, in both podcast and blog format. Also, if there are other shows you’re interested in the blog covering, sound off below! Tell us what you like or don’t like. Keep the discussion going!

PODCAST! – Around the Water Cooler: “Supernatural” – The Season 12 Mid-Season Recap and Progress Report (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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Moderator: Chief Couch Potato Kylie


Who: “Supernatural” airs on network TV, specifically on the CW; this season, the show airs on Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

What: “Supernatural,” a drama depicting the tale of two brothers, Sam and Dean Winchester (Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles, respectively), who are “hunters” of all supernatural ilk, be they demons, monsters, or angels on high, in a quest to save the world from things that go bump in the night, things that cause apocalypses, and things that are generally just out to get them (for a more detailed Synopsis, read here:

When: Season 12 premiered on October 13, 2016, at 8:00 PM on the CW.

Where: The show is set in no specific locale; the brothers ride all over the country in a 1967 Chevrolet Impala and live out of hotel rooms via fake identities and money scams, though the Winchesters are originally from Lawrence, Kansas, and have, as late, holed up in a bunker somewhere near their home town formerly run by the Men of Letters, an organization of which they are legacy members.  The time is present day.

Why:  Oh so many seasons ago now, Chief CP Kylie followed Jensen Ackles–a fine, fine man–from Smallville to his new gig, which, at the time, seemed like a different spin on the X-Files, with two brothers versus two sexually tense FBI agents.  From the opening frames of the pilot, though, I knew that it was oh so much more or, at least, vastly dissimilar to the X-Files, and this show has surpassed so many expectations, including mustering the incredible ability to remain relevant and engaging long past the expiration of the initial story arc mapped out by creator Eric Kripke.  For CPU!’s ever-expanding podcast coverage of a growing number of shows, several CPU! members, all familiar voices to the CPU! loyal, jumped up to participate on this panel, even though many of them also express fatigue with the show from time to time.  How do they feel the show is faring nowadays, into its double digits’ worth of seasons?  Take a listen below.

How – as in How’s It Going? (THOUGHTS…at present)

CPU! caught up on Supernatural in podcast format starting in the summer 2016 by refreshing listeners and ourselves of the goings-on of seasons nine and ten and recapping season eleven (since CPU! previously covered the show in blog format).  If you would like to catch up on our Super-coverage, click the embedded links below, or find the audio equivalents on iTunes, Stitcher Radio, and Google Play (links further below):

The Season 9 Premiere 

Seasons Nine, Ten, and Eleven

Once again, your newly full Super-CPU! panel – including Nick, Jen, Kelsey, and Allie, along with recent addition Jeremy and all Super-fans in their own right – hops into our ’67 Chevy Impala, ready to ride until we, or Supernatural, die(s), as we discuss major plot points from, and ruminate upon the success of, the first half of season twelve.  While our panel’s particular devotion and/or brotherly bond continues to be sometimes tested in Supernatural’s later seasons, we still have lots to think and to talk about and to gush over whilst pining for the brothers and/or Cas (well, I don’t think Nick is pining…unless there’s something we don’t know).  Give us a listen, with your salt guns and holy water on standby, and see if you agree or disagree with our thoughts.

This podcast was recorded in December 2016, and there are, without question, MAJOR SPOILERS, as the panelists cover key plot points of the first half of season twelve of this long-running series. Listen at your own risk, and let us know what you think by commenting below!

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Remember, new episodes and blog posts are published weekly! Our next podcast episode will take a break from our mid-season progress reports as we look back at a show that ended, arguably, too soon (or maybe not soon enough) after two seasons and a lucky first evasion of the cancellation bear, possibly because it was somewhat ahead of its time and/or possibly because it was too derivative to be ahead of its time. What’s all the hoopla about, you ask, Tad Cooper?  Why, we’re looking back at none other than “Gaaaaaal-aaaaaa-vaaaaant!”  That’s Galavant, for you non-musical types. Stay tuned!

Questions, Impressions, and Future Considerations

Old Questions

1) REPEAT QUESTION: How many miles are on the Impala after all this time?

ANSWER: Still unknown.

2) REPEAT QUESTION: Will they ever get their happy ending?

REPEAT ANSWER: While the panel is in no particular rush for a series finale, especially after the stellar eleventh season, a season that hearkened back to the glory years of the first five seasons, it’s likely the brothers will not find peace until they are done.  That’s why Kansas tells them to Carry On, Wayward Sons.  “Lay your weary head to rest; don’t you cry no more.”

3) Is the Mary Winchester that greets Dean in the dark wood an actually resurrected Mary, a gift given to Dean by Amara the Darkness in return for his efforts on her behalf?  Or, is she a ghost with a message?  Panelist Jen predicts that we will see a Mary, alive and well and back in her sons’ lives, and the panel by and large hopes that this is true.

ANSWER: The Mary Winchester that greets Dean in the dark wood is the actually resurrected Mary, a thank-you gift from Amara the Darkness to Dean for reuniting her with her brother, God, aka Chuck the Prophet.  Jen predicted correctly, and all panelists agree, more or less, that Mary being back in her sons’ lives, more or less, is the most intriguing part of the season so far. Listen to the podcast for details.

2) Is Sam alive?  Of course he is.  Jared has top billing.  Or, will he end up dead in a spirit world or a heavenly plane or a hellish plane, from which Dean and Cas will have to save him anew?  Chief CP Kylie predicts that he is alive and will wake up in London with the Woman of Letters who shoots him.  What will happen to him there?  Who knows, but are humans anymore threatening than Lucifer or the Darkness?  None of the panel really feels the danger.

ANSWER: Of course, Sam is alive!  Kylie predicted only partially correctly, however. Sam woke up elsewhere in America, not London, only to be tortured by Lady Toni Bevell, the erstwhile Valerie (Elizabeth Blackmore) from The Vampire Diaries. She was really mean to him, quite the bully, and there is some continuous danger presented by the surprisingly judgmental British arm of the Men of Letters, but the panel, more or less, feels that this story line is the least intriguing, and most confusing, part of the season so far. Listen to the podcast for details.

3) Who is the Woman of Letters, played by the actress who played Valerie on The Vampire Diaries, and why should we care about her other than her ill-guided decision to shoot Sam? Will this arc be remotely compelling after the awesomeness that was Season 11?

ANSWER: Her name is Toni, and she apparently doesn’t follow orders well among her Men of Letters chapter’s chain of command.  She was only supposed to capture Sam and bring him to her compatriots, but she ended up torturing him to get answers she craved more than her colleagues did out of some perverse need for control and order; however, some other Men of Letters appeared after Dean and Mary swooped into save Sam, and Toni is gone again.  Will she be returning?  We don’t know and don’t know if we care because this arc is not compelling, particularly in relation to the preceding season’s awesome.

4) Where did Lucifer go after he was expelled from Cas’ vessel, and what will he do now that he’s out of the Cage (other than be played by Rick Springfield)?  Will Mark Pelligrino return next season to play Lucifer in his true form?  He’s popular among the panelists.

ANSWER: So far, Mark has not yet returned, but the panel remains hopeful.  Yes, it is true – Lucifer was sported by Rick Springfield’s body, playing a rocker by the name of Vince Vicente turned possessed-by-the-literal-devil type.  It seems poor Luci is feeling abandoned by Daddy (i.e. God) again and somewhat embroiled by a mid-immortal life crisis. Purposeless, Luci first explores the fine delights produced by one of the deadliest sins, namely pride/vanity, by enjoying the built-in worship of who is ultimately a washed-up rock star in Vince. After Luci as Vince has some run-ins with Crowley (Mark A. Sheppard), Crowley’s mom Rowena (Ruth Connell), and the brothers Winchester (Castiel i.e. Misha Collins in tow), and after Luci takes out some of Vince’s groupies, his agent, and his entire “butt rock” band Ladyheart, Luci jumps to bigger fish: namely, the President of the United States.  In that body, he takes a mistress and finds new purpose – through procreation.  His mistress Kelly becomes pregnant with his unborn spawn shortly before Sam and Dean use a Men of Letters gadget, a golden sphere typically used to suck out demon essences, loaned to them by efficient English Letters Man Mr. Ketch, to evict fallen archangel Luci from the POTUS.  Where he went is up for much debate among the CPU! Super panel and is one of our biggest questions going forward.

5) Will we ever see John Winchester, especially the one played by Jeffrey Dean Morgan, on Supernatural again?  Wouldn’t it be great if he was hanging out in Heaven with Bobby? Or, if he came back to life like Mary (if she, in fact, came back to life)?

ANSWER: No sightings of The Walking Dead actor yet, but the rumors are heavily percolating now among fanzines and pop culture/TV watchdogs.  We may yet see a reunion with JDM in his old Super stomping ground – maybe even this season! – but dead like Bobby or alive like Mary (or, gulp, maybe still dead and joined by a newly re-dead Mary) is anyone’s guess.  Please note that these rumors are unconfirmed, and CPU! is based out of Grand Rapids, Michigan, so no Supernatural insider is giving us information.  We just like to gossip around here.

6) Panelist Kelsey wondered, if the Horseman Death was killed in Season Ten, removing the Mark of Cain and releasing the Darkness, how are people still able to die?  Will Billie the Reaper return?  Is she vying to be the New Death?  What is her damage in the end? Why does she have it out for the Winchesters?  So, they get a few extra chances at life – they’re dealing in destinies here.

ANSWER: Billie the Reaper did return, to offer Mary the choice of returning to her death state via the reaping of her soul after Mary struggles to adjust to an Earth thirty years after her first death, but Mary, belatedly, declines that offer.  Billie may yet be vying to be “New Death,” and Kelsey’s questions on this subject persist.  We still don’t understand Billie’s true aims and particular beef with the Winchesters, but we may yet find out in the next half of the season.  So, this is still a question.

7) Will Castiel be more relevant in the future?  The panel feels that he may have lost his way; what will his purpose be now that Lucifer was ejected from him?  God (i.e. Chuck the Prophet and auteur of the Supernatural saga within the show) and the Darkness left for a “family meeting:” what’s going on with Heaven?  How will the angels pick up the pieces?

ANSWER: If by Cas teaming up, buddy cop and bromance style, with Crowley makes him more relevant, then he might have found his way again.  Cas spent the majority of this half season trying to track down Lucifer with dethroned King of Hell Crowley, and he was successful in doing so.  When the mid-season break arrived, Cas lost custody of a freaked POTUS mistress and mother of to-be devil spawn Kelly, who gave him the slip at a truck stop.  Cas will probably have to track her down.  In the meantime, we haven’t heard a lick out of the angels or Heaven this half season.  We don’t know if that’s good or bad.

8) Will Rowena, Crowley’s mom, be returning?  Why?  The panel is divided as to how they feel about her.

ANSWER: Rowena returned this season.  Really, she was trying to pick up the pieces of her immortal life post-apocalypse by getting herself a sugar daddy, but, in the end, she only found a fellow, decidedly less magical con artist who devoted son Crowley snuffed out in rankly loyalty to his mum when her suitor tried to leave equally destitute Rowena for a richer woman.  It was sweet.  Sort of.  Rowena also helped Crowley with a few anti-Lucifer spells, but Luci is pretty powerful, so when they didn’t hold, she and Crowley quickly disappeared, avoiding fallout from any battle between the Winchesters and Lucifer.

9) What is Crowley’s endgame at this point?  All the demons in hell gave over when Lucifer came back.  What is his purpose?  He’s not universally popular among our panel members.

ANSWER: All Crowley wants is his throne back.  Seriously, it’s power and prestige for the decidedly two-dimensional demon formerly named Fergus, but his chemistry with straight-laced, awkward angel Cas remains a source of endless comedy.

10) If Lucifer is out of the Cage, why can’t the archangel Michael, currently housed within long lost Winchester half brother Adam, escape from the Cage?  Will we ever see Adam/Michael again?

ANSWER: Still a question.  I, personally, have to believe that, with Lucifer out of Hell’s Cage, archangel Michael (whether inside half-Winchester Adam or not), has some time to sort through his sanity.  Here’s hoping he busts out.  There’s a disturbing lack of archangels nowadays.

New Questions

1) Will Mary ever get it together long enough to accept her new lease on life and her much older, adult sons?  Her adjustment seems prolonged.  Understandable but prolonged. What will be her purpose in the end?  Will she continue hunting?  Will she join #TeamWinchester? Or, will she be the footnote of yet another – and a repeat one at that – tragedy in the boys’ lives?

2) Seriously, why should we care about the British Men of Letters at all?  Why are they interfering?  Why does their approach with sussing out the boys’ methods suck?  Why can’t we abandon this piece of the story? Much of our panel feels that it’s not working, though some are still vaguely intrigued.

3) Will Toni return?  For what reason?  Or, did the Brits put her in “time out?”

4) Where did Lucifer go?  Some of the panel thought that his angel essence was entrapped by the Men of Letters golden snitch, while some saw it go through a floor vent.  Kylie predicts that Lucifer will most likely return to fetch his spawn.  What will his spawn be? Will his spawn be the “anti-Christ?”  Will his spawn be born?  Will his spawn bring about the end of times…again?

5) Will Sam, Lucifer’s predestined vessel, be forced to house Lucifer again, who burns through other human hosts quickly and destructively?  There seems to be some hint at that possibility, though Sam has avoided it successfully so far.

6) To that end, the “American Nightmare” episode hearkened back to and reminded the viewer that Sam was once one of demon Azazel’s children, with psychic abilities.  In that episode, Sam encountered a strict religious family who demonized their daughter Magda for having psychic ability.  In that episode, Sam told Magda that he once had similar abilities.  When she asked if he still did, Sam answered that he “thought” they were gone. Will we be seeing a return of Sam’s psychic abilities?  He’s always been highly intuitive; if they do return, what will be the context?  What will be the purpose?  What will he do with them?  Will he be good or evil? The panel kind of wants to see this happen.

7) The John Winchester question remains a question: will we see him this season?  And played by whom?  And will he be alive or dead?

8) The Billie the Reaper question remains a question: is she aiming to be New Death? What is her true intention?  Or, is she a dutiful bureaucrat, operating status quo in the absence of her boss? Will she be successful in reaping Mary’s newly returned soul?  The brothers’?

9) The angel question remains a question – Heaven seems disturbingly quiet…

10) Where did Rowena and Crowley go?  Is Crowley back on his basement throne again? Will Rowena return to her witch-y ways, since her dreams of marrying her sugar daddy went bust and since she seems to have somewhat repaired her estrangement from her son?

11) Last we saw, Sam and Dean were taken into federal custody because once Lucifer was sucked out of the POTUS with the Golden demon essence sucking Snitch, it appeared as if Sam and Dean had hurt the President, causing the Secret Service and federal marshals to descend upon them and to arrest them.  The panel feels confident that they will escape or be released; we just don’t know how.  Will Castiel, vexed by losing Satan’s spawn, save them? Will Crowley?  Will they break out themselves? Will they get off with presidential pardon? And then, where does the show go from here?

And, for the record, Dean killed Hitler.


Some doubts have resurfaced among the members of our Supernatural panel.  Though we all remain committed until the end of the show, whenever that may be, and though, in many ways, Supernatural is still like a well oiled machine – a quality program with a cultivated, passionate cult fan base, even if the quality is not necessarily consistent in its late life – the panel is struggling somewhat with season twelve so far. In this episode, we wrestle with the arguably realized risk that during this season, the show is becoming slightly boring.  We also wrestle with the not as debatable but realized risk that the show is bloated by too many story lines that do not seem to intersect but for the presence of the Winchester boys themselves. The panel members all still agree that Supernatural could never be completely unwatchable, owing to the writing, acting, and quirks of the mythology (and the sheer beauty of its cast), but the general consensus was that the show took on three major story lines that have not dovetailed together as well as might have been expected in the return of Mary Winchester, Lucifer on Earth, and the British Men of Letters.  The panel remains hopeful that the writers and producers will help them meaningfully intersect by the end of the season in a way that pays the viewer off, like season eleven did. There remains nothing like Supernatural on TV right now, at any rate, and despite the panel members’ individual gripes, all members feel that the show is still entertaining, even this late in its lifetime. Carry On, Wayward Sons, as we prepare to watch what the rest of season twelve has to offer.


Supernatural was automatically ordered for a full season upon renewal and will return from its mid-season hiatus on January 26, 2017. In addition, the CW has granted what was an all-but-confirmed (until last week) early renewal for the show’s lucky thirteenth season, which means the CPU! Super-panel will be sticking around yet. In fact, our Supernatural podcast panel will next reconvene following the twelfth season finale, which will likely air in or around May 2017. As always, CPU! will keep you informed of news and additional show coverage.  Until then!

Full/er House Series, Episode Two: Fuller House, Season One (MAJOR SPOILERS)


A new episode of Couch Potatoes Unite!, which is based on a blog of the same name hosted at In this episode, recorded in December 2016, our “fuller” panel of fans of all things Tanner/Tanner-Fuller–including moderator Kristen, Andrew, Allie, Amie, Leslie, and Jenn–gathered “Around the Water Cooler” to discuss the first season of revival Netflix sequel series Fuller House in the second episode of CPU!’s Full/er House series (we previously looked back at original series Full House in episode one).  If you have not watched any of Full House OR Fuller House, be aware that there are MAJOR SPOILERS.  Tell us what you think in the comments below, and check out the blog and YouTube for other TV related discussions, in both podcast and blog format. Also, if there are other shows you’re interested in the blog covering, sound off below! Tell us what you like or don’t like. Keep the discussion going!