Full/er House Series, Episode Five: Fuller House, Season 4 (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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A new episode of Couch Potatoes Unite!, which is based on a blog of the same name hosted at couchpotatoesunite.wordpress.com. In this episode, recorded in June 2019, our newly “fuller” (really!) panel of fans of all things Tanner/Tanner-Fuller–including moderator Kristen; Andrew; Leslie; a panelist new to the panel but not to the podcast, namely Samantha; and brand new CPU! panelist Jared – gathered “Around the Water Cooler” to discuss the fourth season of the revival Netflix sequel series Fuller House in the fifth episode of CPU!’s Full/er House series (we previously looked back at original series Full House in Episode One and recapped prior seasons of Fuller House in subsequent episodes).  Tell us what you think, and/or if there are other shows you’re interested in CPU! covering, below; email us at: couchpotatoesunitepodcast@gmail.com; or check out our Guestbook at the website, our Facebook page, our Twitter (@cpupodcast), or our Instagram (@couchpotatoesunite). Until next time, until next episode…buh bye!

Executive Producer/Chief Couch Potato: Kylie C. Piette
Associate Producers: Krista Pennington and Selene Rezmer

Editor: Kylie C. Piette
Logo: Rebecca Wallace
Marketing Graphic Artist: Krista Pennington

Theme Song:
Written by: Sarah Milbratz
Singers: Sarah Milbratz, Amy McDaniel, Kelsey Rezmer
Keyboard: Kelsey Rezmer
Bass: Ian McDonough
Guitar: Christian Somerville
Engineer/Production: Kyle Aspinall/Christian Somerville

PODCAST! – Around the Water Cooler & Streaming Originals: “Fuller House” – Season 4, the Full/er House Series Panel’s Review and Recap; the Full/er House Series, Episode Five (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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Moderator: Kristen

THE SPECS:

Who: “Fuller House,” an American family situation comedy and sequel to Full House, which airs on the Netflix streaming service as an original series, which means, for the record, that it is available to Netflix subscribers exclusively, as it is Netflix produced original content.

What: The series centers around DJ Tanner-Fuller (Candace Cameron Bure), a veterinarian and widowed mother of three sons, whose sister and best friend—the mother to a teenage daughter—provide support in her sons’ upbringings by moving in with her and into DJ and her sister’s childhood home.

SYNOPSIS

After the sudden death of DJ Tanner-Fuller’s (Bure) husband, Tommy, who was fulfilling his hazardous duties as a firefighter, DJ accepts the help of her sister, Stephanie (Jodie Sweetin), and her best friend, Kimmy (Andrea Barber), as they move in to take part in raising DJ’s three sons: 13-year-old Jackson (Michael Campion), 7-year-old Max (Elias Harger), and baby Tommy Jr. (Dashiell and Fox Messitt). Kimmy’s teenage daughter, Ramona (Soni Nicole Bringas), also moves in with DJ, Stephanie, Kimmy, and DJ’s children. Most of the Full House ensemble cast reprise their roles on Fuller House, either as regular cast members or in guest appearances, with the exception of Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen, who alternated in the role of Michelle Tanner on Full House.

When: Netflix released Season 4 on December 14, 2018, with total of 13 episodes.

Where: The show is set in San Francisco, California.

Why: Listen to the podcast series, via the embedded links below, for the panelists’ individual stories on how they found Fuller House.

How – as in How Was It? – THOUGHTS

So many CPU! regulars, including frequent CPU! contributor and panelist Kristen, love Full House and were particular excited, at least initially, by the Netflix revival of this long dormant sitcom, creating a brand new chapter for the series, which the streaming channel calls Fuller House. In fact, Kristen saw an opportunity for a new CPU! podcast series, in which CPU! panelists look back at the program that started it all while looking forward “around the water cooler” as new seasons of the reboot are released. Thus, herein we offer the fifth episode of said CPU! series covering the various versions of this sitcom, which we at CPU! are calling our “Full/er House Series.”  Listen to our previous episodes in this series, in which we Look Back at Full House and review and recap previous seasons of Fuller House, via embedded links below:

Episode One: Looking Back at “Full House”

Episode Two: “Fuller House,” Season 1

Episode Three: “Fuller House,” Season 2

Episode Four: “Fuller House,” Season 3

In addition, lacking the ability to fully appreciate Full House (and Fuller House) age-wise by a few years, the Chief CP steps aside from the moderating microphone once again, so that Kristen may serve as main moderator with the kind of enthusiasm this juggernaut of nostalgia deserves. Kristen is, in turn, rejoined by her fellow series panelists, Andrew and Leslie, who proved game to return for this fifth episode of our “Full/er House” series. They are, in turn, newly and more fully joined by one panelist new to the panel but not to the podcast, namely Samantha (currently involved in the Grace and Frankie and The Crown panels, among others), and by a brand new panelist, embarking upon his CPU! journey for the first time – Jared!

In this latest CPU! Fuller House episode, the panel discusses their favorite and least favorite moments from the fourth, and now officially penultimate, season of the reboot.  In sum, the panel’s reactions to Season 4 prove more widely mixed and, in essence, more difficult to pinpoint, in terms of an average rating, compared to previous seasons. Some of our panelists struggled through the nuanced changes in the show following the involuntary departure of creator and Executive Producer Jeff Franklin, including the evolving tonal quality of the show following the move to Netflix (and given the time period that has elapsed since the original series ended), while other panelists continued to enjoy what they have always enjoyed about the series, the heart and soul of the Full House banner, and to take that entertainment value for what it’s worth.  Listen to this latest podcast episode in our Series, if you have watched through Season 4, and gauge whether you agree or disagree with the plethora of opinions offered herein.

This podcast was recorded in June 2019, and there are, without question, MAJOR SPOILERS, as we cover major plot points and comedic situations portrayed in the fourth season of Fuller House. Listen at your own risk, and let us know what you think by commenting below!

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Remember, new episodes and blog posts are published weekly!   Except not next week…because next Wednesday, CPU! will be publishing a rerun, as it’s the day before the day of American Independence, and we deserve a holiday too! We should really try to get outside and enjoy the summer weather instead of being glued to our TV screens all the time, or so they tell us, anyway. Plus, it’s super hard to concentrate on sound editing with all of those darn fireworks going off! To that end, new episodes resume anew on July 10, 2019, when an exciting new panel will be launched, one that will boldly go where CPU! has never gone before! Our “Star Trek 50+ Series” will meet at the Water Cooler for the first time in July to launch the largest multi-part, multi-episode Retrospective series ever initiated at Couch Potatoes Unite!, covering every single season of every single series of the Star Trek franchise (and the films too)! On July 10, the panel discusses Season 1 of Star Trek, the Original Series. Stay tuned!

Questions, Impressions, and Future Considerations

Old Questions

1) REPEAT QUESTION: Will Michelle, aka Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen, ever return to the show? (And why are they so snooty about it…it launched their careers, and the ability they had to start their alleged fashion empire?)

TWEAKED ANSWER: Still a question, likely with a “no” answer, even as our panelists remain twelve percent hopeful. Unfortunately, our panelists report that the show resumed the off-putting jokes addressed to a broken fourth wall to call out the twins’ (and Michelle’s) absence.

2) REPEAT QUESTION: Will we see any of Michelle’s friends?

REPEAT ANSWER: Still a question, but without Michelle, why would anyone care about her friends?

3) Will Stephanie (Sweetin) and Jimmy (Adam Hagenbuch) get engaged?

ANSWER: Yes! In the Season 4 finale, after Kimmy (Barber) delivers Stephanie and Jimmy’s new baby via surrogacy, Jimmy proposes to Stephanie, and she answers, “Yes!”

4) Will everyone REALLY be moving back into the house – Danny (Bob Saget), Jesse (John Stamos), Becky (Lori Loughlin), Joey (Dave Coulier), and all of their various offspring included?  Will everyone REALLY be shuffled back into their old quarters in this San Francisco house that seems to become more like a TARDIS as time passes (it’s bigger on the inside)?

ANSWER: No. Only Danny moves in with his daughters, Kimmy, and their children temporarily while he explores the possibilities and potentialities related to retirement, but he moves out again once he finds his new post-retirement purpose with the help of Aunt Becky, specifically his old job at Wake Up, San Francisco. The other uncles and aunt simply make their usual visits.

5) Will DJ and Steve (Scott Weinger) finally stick?

ANSWER: They are officially official in Season 4 and so far, so good.

6) Why are the Gibblers so weird?

ANSWER: Some questions can only be answered thus: “TV Magic.”

7) Since there were three viable embryos from Stephanie’s surrogacy journey, will Kimmy be bearing multiple children for her?

ANSWER: Kimmy, as a surrogate, gives birth to one baby girl for Stephanie.

8) Will the show get better? 

ANSWER: New panelist Jared feels that the show has remained consistent and “good;” panelist Leslie feels that the show improved upon Season 3 in the fourth season; panelist Andrew thinks that the show improved in Season 4 but is still worse than Seasons 1 and 2; moderator Kristen and new panelist Samantha regard the whole kit and caboodle as all downhill from here.

New Questions

1) Will DJ and Steve get married – finally?

2) What will Stephanie and Jimmy’s baby girl be named?

3) Will there be a double wedding, with DJ/Steve and Stephanie/Jimmy, or even a triple wedding, with Kimmy/Fernando?

4) But seriously, will Michelle return? Or, will Stephanie and Jimmy name their daughter “Michelle” as an homage to the never-seen youngest Tanner sister, off doing her fashion thing?

5) Will we see Joey’s kids again (the panel votes “no”)?

6) How will the show handle the departure of Lori Loughlin, who was caught up in the college admissions scandal of earlier this year and who is expected to go to trial related to charges for bribery, and others, after attempting to fix college admissions with financial incentives at prestigious schools on behalf of her daughter? Or, will Loughlin actually be allowed to make an appearance in this final season?

7) Will Kimmy and Fernando finally remarry, whether in the previously theorized triple wedding or not? What’s going on with them?

8) Will there be a happy ending? It’s Full(er) House, right? Will the show be able to make up for the lack of a satisfying ending, denied to the flagship series upon its abrupt 1995 cancellation?

9) Will the begrudging CPU! “Full/er House Series” panelists come around in the end?

10) How many panelists will there be at the last? Our panels are full at six or seven, and this panel has experienced quite the roller coaster in panel composition!

PARTING SHOTS

Our new panelists bring with them an offset cache of balanced fresh opinions. Panelist Jared enjoys and is entertained by the whole show, from start to finish, while panelist Samantha struggles along with some of her veteran compatriots on this panel. Some of the panelists readily recommend this reboot series to others who might enjoy the admittedly “cheesy” humor, while other panelists cannot imagine a world of people who might enjoy this show enough to warrant such a recommendation. To the extent that the panelists recommend the show, they do so mainly for the nostalgic appeal and “turn your brain off” level of entertainment resulting from the perennially saccharine premise of this well-loved cast and the tongue-in-cheek presentation of its “aw, shucks” humor. Most of the panelists would hesitate to recommend the show to anyone who has not seen the original Full House series, though the panelists also believe that the core audience of Fuller House has been established and will likely not grow, given the show’s specific oeuvre and vastly uneven quality. 

The panelists’ reactions to the fourth season, as above, proved to be vastly diverse, with some exhibiting effervescent enthusiasm for it while others claimed to be downright unable to finish watching it, either in light of or in spite of the change in show runners resulting from the involuntary departure/discharge of original creator (of both Full House and Fuller House) Jeff Franklin.  Still, our panelists hope for a happy ending at the end of what was announced to be the fifth and final season and still, at times begrudgingly, admit that this sequel series and its ham and cheese on rye quality of humor remains easily binged and easily digested, with minimal heartburn or regret, even given its less well-received moments. As such, our panelists hope for a Season 5 that ends with the proverbial bang and not the (mostly) expected whimper, even as but a segment of the panel continues to champion the series, while the rest of the panel sees fit only to round out the investment of time that they have devoted to this series, out of loyalty to CPU!, if nothing else (aw?). For the discerning viewer seeking direction on whether or not to pick up this series, then, one can obviously glean from the above that the general reaction “is what it is” and will be what it will be, which is probably not helpful in the end. In other words: watch it, and form your own judgment, because our panel is literally all over the very fuller map.

LOOKING AHEAD

Netflix renewed Fuller House for a fifth and final season of eighteen episodes, which is expected to release later this year, though no release date has yet been announced by the streaming service giant.  CPU!’s next Full/er House episode, which will focus on this fifth and final seasonwill likely record and publish some time after the fifth season drops. Like, follow, and/or subscribe to the blog, iTunes, YouTube, Stitcher Radio, Google Play, or our social media accounts to stay abreast of new episodes in the Full/er House podcast series as well as of new episodes for all of our podcast panels!  And, if you feel so inclined, please leave us a review (give us stars – many of them!). Thank you!

13 Reasons Why, Season 2 (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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NOTE: This episode contains some strong language and direct discussion about the sensitive topics depicted on the show. Listener discretion is advised.

A new podcast episode of Couch Potatoes Unite!, which is based on a blog of the same name hosted at couchpotatoesunite.wordpress.com. In this episode, recorded in May 2019, our panel of veteran CPU! panelists and conscientious TV fans – including moderator Kylie, Kristen, Andrew, Amie, Emily, and Jeremy (and no longer including Jenn, who jumped the shark as of this season) – is Around the Water Cooler and discussing Season 2 of Netflix original 13 Reasons Why. If you have not watched any of 13 Reasons Why, be aware that there are MAJOR SPOILERS! Tell us what you think, and/or if there are other shows you’re interested in CPU! covering, below; email us at: couchpotatoesunitepodcast@gmail.com; or check out our Guestbook at the website, our Facebook page, our Twitter (@cpupodcast), or our Instagram (@couchpotatoesunite). Until next time, until next episode…buh bye!

Executive Producer/Chief Couch Potato: Kylie C. Piette
Associate Producers: Krista Pennington and Selene Rezmer

Editor: Kylie C. Piette
Logo: Rebecca Wallace
Marketing Graphic Artist: Krista Pennington

Theme Song:
Written by: Sarah Milbratz
Singers: Sarah Milbratz, Amy McDaniel, Kelsey Rezmer
Keyboard: Kelsey Rezmer
Bass: Ian McDonough
Guitar: Christian Somerville
Engineer/Production: Kyle Aspinall/Christian Somerville

PODCAST! – Streaming Originals & Around the Water Cooler: “13 Reasons Why” – The Season 2 Recap and Review (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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Moderated by: Chief Couch Potato Kylie

THE SPECS:

Who: “13 Reasons Why” is a drama-mystery web television series based on the 2007 novel Thirteen Reasons Why by Jay Asher and is a Netflix original series, always available on Netflix.

What: “13 Reasons Why,” adapted by Brian Yorkey for Netflix, revolves around a high school student, Clay Jensen (Dylan Minnette), and his friend, Hannah Baker (Katherine Langford), who committed suicide after suffering a series of demoralizing circumstances, brought on by select individuals at her school. A box of cassette tapes recorded by Hannah before her suicide details thirteen reasons why she ended her life.

SYNOPSIS

Clay Jensen (Minnette) returns home from school to find a mysterious box lying on his porch. Inside, he discovers seven double-sided cassette tapes recorded by Hannah Baker (Langford), his classmate and unrequited love, who tragically committed suicide two weeks earlier. On tape, Hannah unfolds an emotional audio diary, detailing the thirteen reasons why she decided to end her life. The series explores the fallout from the revelations on Hannah’s tapes.

When: Season 2 was released in its entirety to the Netflix streaming library on May 18, 2018, with a total of thirteen episodes.

Where: The action takes place in an unnamed, presumably Californian town (the series was shot in California) at fictional Liberty High School.

Why: To find out why individual podcast panelists started watching this show, listen to the podcast episode via the link below.

How – as in How Was It? – THOUGHTS

CPU! has covered 13 Reasons Why since the series’ beginning. To listen to our Season 1 review, listen via the embedded link below or via our audio feed at Apple/iTunes, Stitcher Radio, and Google Play:

When 13 Reasons Why premiered on Netflix, so many CPU! core panelists advocated for a 13 Reasons Why panel, the Chief CP had to oblige and to subsequently draw lots, since we had more volunteers than actual room on the panel. Since that time, at least one panelist – Jenn – has jumped the shark after watching only a few episodes of the second season, though the rest of the panel, CPU! regulars Kristen, Andrew, Amie, Emily, and Jeremy, all returned to attempt to process Season 2 via what could only be described as a mixed bag of reactions.  In this episode, our remaining conscientious five, along with yours truly, the main moderator, parse through the thirteen new courtroom-based testimonies and three Polaroids of Season 2 of 13 Reasons Why and also delve into the continuing, ensuing controversies that this unflinching and graphic portrayal of social issues confronting today’s teens have wrought.

In the episode linked below, this panel spends considerable time with and meditates upon each of the deeply flawed characters motivating the story within 13 Reasons Why.  The panel also reacts to the continued debates and controversies arising from critical and popular reception of the series: is the show responsible social commentary or irresponsible revenge fantasy? Does the show glorify suicide, or does it provide a stark and necessary depiction of it in order to provoke needed conversation around signs and triggers?  Does the streaming network provide enough trigger warnings? Does the series attempt to tackle too many social issues at once, but only at a surface level, giving none of them a true exploration of said issues due to the sheer number of them, or is the show daring to tread roads where other series fear to go? Our eager and vocal panel participants may not have all the answers, but as with the world at large, some continued strong reactions are voiced during this longer-than-usual discussion.

For those who find it difficult to listen to discussion about sexual assault (rape), suicide, and the other heady topics bridged by this program, please note that we do discuss much of it directly and, in some instances, quite personally. Listener discretion is advised.

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Remember, new episodes and blog posts are published weekly! Next Wednesday, our A Series of Unfortunate Events panel returns – for the last time – to the Water Cooler to discuss the final season of the quirky Netflix dark comedy (allegedly) made for children, i.e. Season 3. In our upcoming episode, we will also Look Back at the entirety of this popular adaptation of Lemony Snicket’s novels, which we have covered on the podcast since the show’s beginning, and we will examine its relative success (or lack thereof) as an overall series as well as say goodbye, both to the series and to each other (for now). Stay tuned!

Questions, Impressions, and Future Considerations

1) We presume that Tyler Down (Devin Druid) will be the focal subject of Season 3, given the ending scene of Season 2, in which Tyler (SPOILER) brings a gun to school with the intention of unloading it during the Spring Fling dance and following Monty’s brutal act toward Tyler in the Season 2 finale. How appropriate is it for the show to switch gears from a narrative largely about Hannah and sexual assault/mental health issues/suicide to Tyler and the theme of school shootings/violence? Will the show be able to handle this transition sensitively and to broach this issue with care and responsibility? Should the show even be going down this road?

2) Given Chloe’s Season 2 finale admission to Jessica (Alisha Boe) that she is pregnant, a result of non-consensual sex with Bryce (Justin Prentice), the panelists fear that the show might additionally try to tackle the subject of abortion at a time when such a fraught topic might be timely from a sociological and political perspective, even as the vehicle, 13 Reasons Why the series, might not be an appropriate vessel for such a divisive subject. Our panel is especially concerned, as the show originally, again, focused on Hannah as the central character, and as the series has not handled the topics originally depicted by the source novel as sensitively as it could have in these socially aware times. Will the show broach the subject of abortion? Should it?

3) The show seeded a narrative/theme for a supporting character, the Class President Marcus, an African-American male, in Season 2, in which he was blackmailed by Tyler and his new friend Cyrus into labeling Bryce a “rapist” at a public event. The audience is given a glimpse into Marcus’ home life, in which his father praises his hard work and intelligence, particularly in light of the fact that he and his family expect to experience hardship due to race; yet, the show explored this issue, in the panel’s estimation, rather superficially in Season 2. Will the show revisit this theme in Season 3, since we saw Marcus experience no consequences for his actions against Hannah, his on-the-stand perjury (or obfuscation of the whole truth) during the trial, and his wavering sense of morality in light of his behavior and choices?

4) The panel strongly reacted to the show’s handling of Clay’s individual mental health issues, given his profound grief over Hannah’s death, his full-fledged conversations with her “ghost,” and his coping mechanisms related to his pursuit of his private investigation of the revelations around Hannah discussed during the trial, to his reactions and relationship to Skye, and to his dynamic as well as his care and support of Justin (Brandon Flynn) during Justin’s rounds of heroin detox. Will the show more meaningfully revisit Clay’s own mental health journey? Will we be given a better explanation for the Hannah manifestation? Or, were Clay’s reactions and apparent state of mind only dependent upon his obsession with Hannah, in life and in death, and will they be forgotten now that Hannah and, therefore, Clay has “moved on?”

5) Will the show explain or explore how the school district’s defense attorney came to know so many personal details about the various witnesses called to testify in the trial? We can assume or presume that Bryce provided some information, but where did much of the intimate information come from, and how was it vetted, if at all? The trial felt like the consummate courtroom melodrama and, in some ways, represented some of the sloppiest storytelling of Season 2, as far as our panel is concerned.

6) How will Clay’s parents’ decision to adopt Justin play out in Season 3? Will they be as oblivious to Justin’s ongoing addiction as they are to their son’s mental health state?

7) Is there more of a history between Tyler and Monty than what we have already seen, and, if so, what is it? Will we learn more in Season 3?

8) Will the show use another “device” to tell the story, like the cassettes or the Polaroids, in Season 3? What will it be?

9) With Chloe’s pronouncement to Jessica that she is pregnant, and with Bryce’s announcement to Zach (Ross Butler) that he is transferring to a different school, will Bryce be forced to cancel those plans? Will he remain at Liberty? Or, will his parents try to pay Chloe off or otherwise keep her quiet?

10) Will our panel fully return to discuss Season 3? Much doubt was expressed about the idea of extending this series even further beyond its source material than previously accomplished via the second season, and the panelists, mostly, feel trepidation about the idea of the coming third season. Listen to the podcast episode for details.

PARTING SHOTS

Universally, the CPU! 13 Reasons Why panelists feel that Season 2 of this controversial series is not as well executed as the first season. Without the reliable support of the source material, as the first season wholly adapted the one novel on which the series is based, the series’ second season struck our panelists as “forced,” “contrived,” superficial in its revisit of the issues that rendered the show such a water cooler TV topic in 2017, scattered in its attempt to tackle even more social issues than those originally addressed without being able to deeply or genuinely delve into them, “manipulative,” and, in some ways, more sensationalized in its depiction of sensitive issues, considering the strong negative response to the perceived sensationalism of the show’s first season. The panelists struggled most with the writing and narrative structure of Season 2, finding many of the plot choices and revelations about Hannah to be contradictory to what was learned in Season 1, which was based on the actual book, and in a way that did not add to her story. Panelists also panned some performances, particularly by some of the actors and actresses playing the parents, with the notable exceptions of the fabulous Kate Walsh and Brian d’Arcy James as Olivia and Andy Baker, Hannah’s parents, respectively. To that end, some of the episode direction suffered as a result, with choppy pacing and framing that felt as manipulative as the story being peddled in the series’ sophomore season, at least in our panel’s particular regard.

As a result, the panel no longer universally recommends 13 Reasons Why, at least beyond Season 1, as what many of the panelists enjoyed and lauded about the first season, especially the program’s ability to push the conversation about teen suicide, sexual assault, bullying, and other serious issues affecting today’s youth to the forefront, seemed watered down and worryingly “surface-level” in the second season.  In addition, the risky decision to renew an already shaky story structure for a third season leaves the panel with uneasy feelings, particularly as the show moves away from Hannah as a main focus and attempts to re-position the drama around problematic character Tyler and, presumably, the subject of school shootings as well as, quite possibly, teen pregnancy (and related issues), given Chloe’s circumstances. Thus, for anyone who has not watched this series, particularly Season 2, and is considering it, take this mixed-message recommendation for what it is: watch, and judge for yourself, but watch with caution all the same.

LOOKING AHEAD

13 Reasons Why was renewed for a third season, which is expected to drop later in 2019, though a tentative release date has not yet been announced by Netflix as of the date of this publication. As always, CPU! will keep you informed of all 13 Reasons Why coverage, and this panel will, as such, hopefully return some time after the release of Season 3 to recap the new season. Until then!

Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, Season 4 & “Goodbye”/Looking Back Review (MAJOR SPOILERS)

A new podcast episode of Couch Potatoes Unite!, which is based on a blog of the same name hosted at couchpotatoesunite.wordpress.com. In this episode, our “unbreakable” panel – including moderator Kylie, Kristen, Krista, Sarah, Nick, and Andrew – is Around the Water Cooler, Streaming Originals, and chatting for the last time as a panel about the fourth and final season of Netflix Original series Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, as well as Looking Back at the now ended series as a whole. This episode was recorded in April 2019, and, as always, if you haven’t seen any of Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, be aware that there are MAJOR SPOILERS! Tell us what you think, and/or if there are other shows you’re interested in CPU! covering, below; email us at couchpotatoesunitepodcast@gmail.com; or check out our Guestbook at the website, our Facebook page, our Twitter (@cpupodcast), or our Instagram (@couchpotatoesunite). Until next time, until next episode…buh bye!

UPDATE!

Apparently, our panel is not quite done. Have you heard the late-breaking news? A final interactive special of Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt will appear on Netflix in 2020.

It’s official. This podcast has psychic powers.

Executive Producer/Chief Couch Potato: Kylie C. Piette
Associate Producers: Krista Pennington and Selene Rezmer

Editor: Kylie C. Piette
Logo: Rebecca Wallace
Marketing Graphic Artist: Krista Pennington

Theme Song:
Written by: Sarah Milbratz
Singers: Sarah Milbratz, Amy McDaniel, Kelsey Rezmer
Keyboard: Kelsey Rezmer
Bass: Ian McDonough
Guitar: Christian Somerville
Engineer/Production: Kyle Aspinall/Christian Somerville

PODCAST! – Around the Water Cooler & Streaming Originals: The CPU! Goodbye to “Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt” – The Season 4 Recap and Review + Looking Back at Seasons 1-4 (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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Moderator: Chief Couch Potato Kylie

Who:  “Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt” is a Netflix original series, always available on Netflix, as it is Netflix-produced original content.

What: “Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt,” a situation comedy about a woman who, along with three other women, is rescued from an underground bunker in rural Indiana after being kidnapped or otherwise stuck inside for fifteen years as a member of a doomsday cult, the leader of which convinced them that the world had ended, and that the apocalypse had come.  Kimmy (Ellie Kemper, The Office) decides to start her life over in New York City, out of time and out of place.  Hilarity ensues.

SYNOPSIS

The heroine of the title, Kimmy Schmidt, is one of five women to emerge from an underground bunker in Indiana, having been, in some respects, unwitting members of a doomsday cult.  The five women were trapped in this bunker, with their religious leader Reverend Richard Wayne Gary Wayne, for fifteen years; Kimmy and her bunker-mates emerge into the twenty-first century while still stuck in the twentieth.  Brimming with endless optimism and a healthy dose of girl power, Kimmy decides to start her brand new life away from small town Indiana by setting up in New York City.  She luckily finds a rent controlled, in a manner of speaking, apartment with a fabulous new roommate named Titus Andromedon (D’Fwan from 30 Rock, Tituss Burgess) and an aging hippie landlord named Lillian, played by character actress Carol Kane.  Kimmy secures a job as a nanny with a ridiculously rich Park Avenue family, the Voorhees, the matriarch of which is boss from hell and new best friend Jacqueline (now White as of Season 2, Jane Krakowski, 30 Rock/Ally McBeal)Mostly, Kimmy finds herself full of optimism but is otherwise a struggling fish out of water and out of time, as she attempts to create an adult life for herself, having lost such a significant part of her childhood to the spartan and strange life of the bunker.

When: The fourth season of the series was released by Netflix in two parts: six episodes were released on May 30, 2018, and the subsequent final six episodes dropped on January 25, 2019.

Where: The action is set in and around New York City, New York, though there are occasional flashbacks to the bunker, which is in Indiana.

Why: The show was created by Tina Fey and Robert Carlock, the producer/creative team responsible for giving us 30 Rock, of which the panelists are generally huge fans. Many of us also enjoyed Ellie Kemper quite a bit in The Office and in the movie Bridesmaids, as she’s got great comedic timing.  This show was on CPU!’s list of pilots to watch for the 2014-2015 season and was originally slated to air on NBC, but when Netflix picked it up instead, it was an easy choice to switch over.

How – as in How’s It Going? (THOUGHTS…at present)

CPU! started covering “Kimmy” from the beginning.  If you haven’t heard our previous Kimmy podcast episodes, listen/watch via the embedded links below:

Season 1

Season 2 – LIVE

Season 3 – LIVE (Sort Of)

Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt blew up the internet when it was first released, which is not surprising, because it begins with an extremely funny premise and a unique sensibility that catch the viewer off guard, along with its wacky humor, witty dialogue (no doubt spearheaded by Fey), stunt casting, and generally zany but positive tone.  In some ways, however, these elements begin to falter in big ways in the fourth season, or so says our UBK panel – original panelists Kristen, Nick, Sarah, Krista, and Andrew – in this latest discussion about the final season, Season 4. Do you agree or disagree with our thoughts on the fourth season?  Our thoughts about the entire series? Let us know if there is anything that you think we missed!

This podcast was recorded in April 2019, and there are, without question, MAJOR SPOILERS, as we also Look Back at and contemplate all four seasons of the show. Listen at your own risk, and let us know what you think by commenting below!

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Remember, new episodes and blog posts are published weekly!  Next Wednesday, our regularly scheduled review episodes will take a brief hiatus (May is always a busy month for our panelists), so we are launching a new interview feature whereby you, the listener, will hear, in a bit more in-depth type fashion, profiles of the CPU! core panelists. In the first episode of “On the Couch With…,” frequent panelist Sarah interviews…yours truly, Chief Couch Potato Kylie (as if you haven’t heard enough of my voice!).  Stay tuned until next week for some casual one-on-one, get-to-know hilarity!

Lingering Questions

1)  REPEAT QUESTION: Will we see Kimmy’s mom, Lori Ann (guest: Lisa Kudrow), again?  Is she still married to Kimmy’s stepdad, played by Tim Blake Nelson?

NEW ANSWER: Lisa Kudrow returns this season for the series finale in a lovely way (listen to the podcast episode for details). Her marriage status vis-a-vis Kimmy’s stepdad is never clarified in any season of the show, though we surmise that we do not really care anymore.

2)  Will we see any more representatives from 30 Rock, since Season 3 was lousy with 30 Rock cameos?

ANSWER: No. No additional 30 Rock actors appear in Season 4. Tina Fey does not even return.

3)  Will there be a larger plot involving the Reverend, since he and Kimmy are still married?

ANSWER: Sort of. Though the Reverend Richard Wayne Gary Wayne is currently housed in federal prison, we see him reconnect, first, with his number one fan, DJ Fingablast aka Doug, in DJ Fingablast’s documentary/mockumentary “Party Monster: Scratching the Surface,” otherwise known as UBK Episode 3. Fingablast reveals that he knew the Reverend way back when he was a (my word) hackneyed wedding DJ, which inspired Jacqueline’s one-time youthful paramour to take up the disc jockey trade. Because Fingablast is so loyal to the Reverend, the DJ also teams up with men’s rights activist Fran Dodd (guest: Bobby Moynihan); they both regard the Reverend as a champion for waning men’s rights, particularly in light of how others sympathize with the Mole Women while Fingablast’s number-one idol rots in jail. This story line becomes largely anticlimactic in the end, however, as Fingablast finds his truth in love, and Fran finds someone to love him back, as being rejected by the fairer sex is ultimately what drives him to take up the plight of the allegedly beleaguered straight, white man in the first place. The panelists additionally feel that the writers tried for satire with this comedic situation, but that said attempt rings hollow for most of us. Listen to the podcast episode for details.

4) Will Tina Fey always play AHN-drea/Andrea?

ANSWER: No. As above, Tina Fey does not appear in Season 4 and plays a Marcia Clark-like attorney in Season 1.

5) Will Titus and Mikey get back together?

ANSWER: Yes! By the end of the series, Mikey comes to his senses and realizes that he knows Titus’ brand – and still loves him for it. In the epilogue, we learn that they marry and adopt beautiful ethnic babies.

6) Will Lillian and Artie reunite?

ANSWER: No. In a confounding decision that confused our panel to the point of apathy, Artie dies off-screen in the transition between seasons – yet appears as a largely unhelpful ghost-figure, available to advise Lillian as she administers the trust fund of Artie’s very rich, very spoiled, huge train wreck of a daughter Sheba (guest: Busy Phillips). This situation stumbles for our panelists, particularly since the actor playing Artie made himself available to play a ghost. In other words, the joke does not work, son.

7) Will Jenna, I mean, Jackie Lynn, I mean, Jacqueline, be funnier as an agent?

ANSWER: No. In fact, Jane Krakowski’s performance in this final season also rings flat and feels tonally off, in every episode of Season 4, for all of our panelists – which means she actually becomes less funny as the head of “White Talent” (who represents Titus) as opposed to more. This joke is, like, of the quality of the sketches of Saturday Night Live in the 2000s. Our panel loves Tina Fey, but this might not be a coincidence.

8) Will Kimmy find her raison d’etre?

ANSWER: Yes. She becomes a children’s book author who endeavors to empower girls with a positive attitude and a healthy dose of imagination. Her first book, The Legends of Greemulax, becomes a Harry Potter-like treatise of female empowerment and unexpectedly touches and inspires Xanthippe, much to Xan’s chagrin, particularly when she learns of the author’s real name behind the nom de plume otherwise listed on the book’s cover.

9) Will Lisa Kudrow come back?  She was well received by our panel.

ANSWER: Yes. As above, Lisa Kudrow returns in the series finale. And there is much rejoicing.

PARTING SHOTS

Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt is now done, and the CPU! UBK panel universally agrees that the final season of the quirky sitcom is the least fresh and least successfully executed, if successfully executed at all, of all the show’s seasons. In fact, the panel opines that though the first season was fresh and funny and surprising in all the best ways, the show’s quality has steadily declined since then, if examining the series as a whole, even as the offbeat comedy contains shining moments of amusement in every season. Though all panelists found reason to laugh when inspired by the show’s over the top characters and absurdist situations, many of the panelists struggled with the scattered and somewhat tonally flat fourth season’s continued reach for gimmicks, like the tone deaf #metoo satire, as well as the generally disjointed story lines, such as Jacqueline’s ongoing journey of alleged personal growth, culminating in her partnership with guest Zachary Quinto’s Eli. Yet, the panelists cannot deny that other characters’ various exploits, like Titus’ discovery of the secret of Cats, the musical, spark smiles, if not sustained ones. Still, the panelists further regard the show as a non-formulaic sitcom with some solid joke-telling, particularly in the first two seasons, less so in the latter two, as well as some easy laughs throughout – that is, when the humor sticks the landing, which the panel has determined is not always the case in Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt.

THE FUTURE OF THE SHOW

Ended!  Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt ended as of January 2019, by mutual agreement of Netflix and the show’s producers, after four seasons.  All four seasons are available to stream on Netflix, as that is the network that produced it. 

The panel, however, does not universally recommend Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt now that the series has ended. Panelist Kristen would recommend it only to individuals with similar senses of humor. Panelists Chief CP Kylie, Nick, and Krista would recommend the show only if the potential viewer has watched 30 Rock and liked that series, while panelist Krista feels that only the first two seasons are truly recommendable, given the series’ perceived decline in its latter half. Panelists Sarah and Andrew would not recommend the comedy to others, as they feel that there are other, better shows in similar genres with similar oeuvres, including The Office, Friends, and Schitt’s Creek.  All in all, these responses and impressions leave the panel with some anticlimactic feelings, as this comedy, which once felt new and fresh, seemed to devolve into some level of disjointed, abstract, “spaghetti at the wall” mediocrity, despite the winning cast performances.  On the other hand, the panelists are ultimately glad that Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt exists – they alive, dammit! It’s a miracle! – in light of its unique premise and strong core cast, and they might even miss the show, in the end, but no one plans to rush to re-watch it anytime soon.  Take that, gentle viewer and listener, for what it’s worth.

In addition, while our UBK coverage is primarily done, don’t be surprised if it makes an appearance or two in coming discussions, from time to time. In the meantime, from our Unbreakable panel of Cats-haters to you, thank you for listening to our ongoing Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt series, which now officially comes to a close.  To discover other shows discussed by CPU!, check here.  For now, we bid you adieu!

UPDATE!

Apparently, our panel is not quite done. Have you heard the late-breaking news? A final interactive special of Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt will appear on Netflix in 2020.

It’s official. This podcast has psychic powers.

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Kimmy Schmidt (Ellie Kemper, left); Jacqueline White (Jane Krakowski, center);
and Titus Andromedon (Tituss Burgess, right) settle in for a weekend of binge TV and girl talk
in Season 4, Episode Two: “Kimmy Has a Weekend!”
The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt panel of Couch Potatoes Unite! gets silly.
Andrew’s in the center.
You probably guessed that, didn’t you?
The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt panel, from left to right:
Andrew, Krista, Kristen, Nick, and Sarah

Looking Back at “Friends,” Seasons 8-10: The Friends Series, Episode 3 + The Panel’s Top and Bottom 10 Lists of Episodes (MAJOR SPOILERS)

A new podcast episode of Couch Potatoes Unite!, which is based on a blog of the same name hosted at couchpotatoesunite.wordpress.com. In this episode, our panel of CPU! loyal Friends – including moderator Chief Couch Potato Kylie, Nick, Sarah, Krista, Hilary, Andrew, and Samantha – reconvened Around the Water Cooler for the final discussion in which we are Looking Back and reminiscing, this time about Seasons 8, 9, and 10 of CPU! favorite, mega-hit sitcom Friends; plus, each panelist provides a Top 10 (Favorite) and Bottom 10 (Least Favorite) list of episodes from the series. This is the third part of a three part CPU! podcast series in which we talk, laugh, quote, and wax nostalgic about all things Friends! This episode was recorded in February 2019, and, as always, if you haven’t seen any of Friends – if that is even possible – be aware that there are MAJOR SPOILERS! Tell us what you think, and/or if there are other shows you’re interested in CPU! covering, below; email us at couchpotatoesunitepodcast@gmail.com; or check out our Guestbook at the website, our Facebook page, our Twitter (@cpupodcast), or our Instagram (@couchpotatoesunite). Until next time, until next episode…buh bye!

Executive Producer/Chief Couch Potato: Kylie C. Piette
Associate Producers: Krista Pennington and Selene Rezmer

Editor: Kylie C. Piette
Logo: Rebecca Wallace
Marketing Graphic Artist: Krista Pennington

Theme Song:
Written by: Sarah Milbratz
Singers: Sarah Milbratz, Amy McDaniel, Kelsey Sprague
Keyboard: Kelsey Sprague
Bass: Ian McDonough
Guitar: Christian Somerville
Engineer/Production: Kyle Aspinall/Christian Somerville