A Series of Unfortunate Events, Season 2 (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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A new podcast episode of Couch Potatoes Unite!, which is based on a blog of the same name hosted at couchpotatoesunite.wordpress.com.  In this episode, recorded in December 2018, our panel of veteran CPU! panelists and Unfortunate TV fans – including moderator Nick, Kristen, Kelsey, Jenn, Selene, and Kylie – is Around the Water Cooler and discussing Season 2 of Unfortunate hit and Netflix original program A Series of Unfortunate Events. If you have not watched any of said Unfortunate Events, be aware that there are MAJOR SPOILERS! Tell us what you think in the comments below and check out the blog and YouTube for other TV related discussions, in both podcast and blog format. Also, if there are other shows you’re interested in the blog covering, sound off below! Tell us what you like or don’t like. Keep the discussion going!

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PODCAST! – Streaming Originals & Around the Water Cooler: “A Series of Unfortunate Events” – The Season 2 Recap and Review (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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Moderated by: Nick

THE SPECS:

Who: “A Series of Unfortunate Events” is an American black comedy-drama television series developed by Mark Hudis and Barry Sonnenfeld, which is based upon the children’s novel series of the same name authored by Lemony Snicket.

What: “A Series of Unfortunate Events” adapts the books of Lemony Snicket’s series of novels. It stars Neil Patrick Harris, Patrick Warburton, Malina Weissman, Louis Hynes, K. Todd Freeman, and Presley Smith.

SYNOPSIS

When a mysterious fire kills their parents, the Baudelaire children are placed into the care of their distant relative Count Olaf (Harris), an actor who is determined to claim the family fortune for himself. Following Olaf’s initial failed attempt to do so, the Baudelaires set out to elude Olaf and to uncover the mystery behind a secret society from their parents’ past.

When: Season 2 was released in its entirety to the Netflix streaming library on March 30, 2018, with a total of 10 episodes.

Where: The action takes place in various fictional locales, not always specifically named, but always housing the Baudelaire children’s (Weissman, Hynes, and Smith) “closest, living relatives.” Geographically speaking, that is.

Why: To find out why individual podcast panelists started watching this show, listen to the podcast episode covering Season 1 via the link below.

How – as in How Was It? – THOUGHTS

In 2017, CPU! reviewed and recapped the first season of this series! If you need to catch up with us, listen to that episode via the embedded link below:

Season 1

Frequent contributor and panelist Nick abounds in passion and, therefore, continues moderation duties while discussing the newest telling of Netflix Streaming Original A Series of Unfortunate Events, in this latest chapter of CPU!’s podcast episodes about this #Unfortunate series, which represents our Season 2 recap and review. Yours truly, the Chief CP, again participates as a regular old panelist to remark upon the unfortunate-ness of the whole affair. Nick and I are, in turn, joined by returning CPU! and ASOUE panelists Kristen, Kelsey, Selene, and Jenn for this all new probing, passionate, and, at times, pithy discussion about the Baudelaires and their trials and tribulations.

This podcast was recorded in December 2018, and there are, without question, MAJOR SPOILERS, as we cover major plot points throughout the second season of A Series of Unfortunate Events. Listen at your own risk, and let us know what you think by commenting below!

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Remember, new episodes and blog posts are published weekly!  For the next two weeks, Couch Potatoes Unite! is going on holiday break, but we won’t leave you hanging without gifts of good cheer to tide you over until 2019. Next week, there will be a bonus mini-episode with greetings from some of CPU!’s finest. The week following, we will publish the Mid-Season Progress Report of new shows in the 2018-2019 TV viewing season. Stay tuned!

Questions, Impressions, and Future Considerations

1) Will the Baudelaire children survive their trials and tribulations? Will they get a happy ending? Will they reunite with the caring Justice Strauss (Joan Cusack) from Season 1? Will they find a happy home anywhere? Or, will they be marginally miserable but, at least, always together?

2) Will Count Olaf get his well-deserved comeuppance?

3) What is the SUGAR BOWL? Why should we care about the sugar bowl? Is it Beatrice’s sugar bowl? Why does Esme Squalor (Lucy Punch) want it so badly?

4) Who is Beatrice? Is she dead? If not, where is she?

5) Are the Baudelaires’ parents really dead? If not, will we see them again?

6) If Lemony Snicket (Warburton) is telling the story, does he know the end?

7) Are the Quagmires’ parents (Will Arnett and Cobie Smulders) officially dead?

8) Who is Jacqueline – what is her goal?

9) Will the Quagmire triplets (Avi Lake and Dylan Kingwell) return?

10) What is the VFD already? And why did Count Olaf “look away” from them at the start? Why do they have standard disguise kits?

PARTING SHOTS

The panel’s consensus around A Series of Unfortunate Events Season 2 is that most of us liked the second season quite a bit better; Chief CP Kylie now finds herself invested beyond initial estimates, while panelist Kristen was less impressed by Season 2 compared to Season 1. Ultimately, despite the fluctuations of opinions between the first two seasons, A Series of Unfortunate Events continues to be universally recommended by all of our panelists, especially to fans of the original book series; of the 2004 film adaptation of same; of Neil Patrick Harris and of Patrick Warburton, who portray Count Olaf and Mr. Snicket, respectively, and do so with flourish and aplomb; and to fans of the type of dark, sardonic humor offered by the likes of Tim Burton or Barry Sonnenfeld, the latter of whom is credited as a creator and an executive producer of this series.  Panelists Kelsey and Selene recommend this program for family viewing along with younger children, though they expressed more concern about the uptick in darkness and death prevalent in the second season and how their six-year-old daughter might react to this new intensity. Chief CP Kylie, the only true member of Gen X on this panel, continues to caution that the series may be more palatable to Millennials and to younger generations, who had a chance to grow up with the original series of children’s books and who might relate to the program more easily, despite the fact that the erstwhile Doogie Howser MD plays a lead character.  The panelists continue to universally praise the visual presentation and technical aspects of the show, even as they offer wide-ranging reactions to the overall direction.  Still, all panelists look forward to what the final season might bring in terms of solving mysteries, answering unanswered questions, sparkling appearances of new guest stars (or the return of old and beloved ones, such as Joan Cusack or Nathan Fillion), and whether the Baudelaires’ ending at the last is truly happy or truly unfortunate for all of their lifetimes. Of course, the panelists and viewers like you will find out soon enough, squarely on the first of the year.

LOOKING AHEAD

A Series of Unfortunate Events was quickly renewed by streaming giant Netflix for a third and final season, which is set to be released by the service on January 1, 2019.  Our ASOUE panel will, naturally, reconvene Around the Water Cooler sometime after the New Year to discuss that final season and to briefly Look Back at the entire series and its overall success. Until then!

New Girl, Season 7 and Looking Back Series Review (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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A new podcast episode of Couch Potatoes Unite!, which is based on a blog of the same name hosted at couchpotatoesunite.wordpress.com. In this episode, recorded in November 2018, our small but robust panel of True Americans – including moderator Kylie, Kristen, and Sarah – is Around the Water Cooler and discussing Season 7 of quirky sitcom New Girl as well as Looking Back at the now ended series as a whole. If you have not watched any of New Girl, be aware that there are MAJOR SPOILERS! Tell us what you think in the comments below and check out the blog and YouTube for other TV related discussions, in both podcast and blog format. Also, if there are other shows you’re interested in the blog covering, sound off below! Tell us what you like or don’t like. Keep the discussion going!

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PODCAST! – Around the Water Cooler: The CPU! Goodbye to “New Girl” – The Season 7 Recap and Review + Looking Back at Seasons 1-7 (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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Moderated by Chief Couch Potato Kylie

THE SPECS:

Who: “New Girl” aired on Fox for seven total seasons from 2011-2018 .

What: “New Girl,” a situation comedy about goofy but lovable teacher (some have described her as ‘adorkable’) Jessica Day (Zooey Deschanel), who, after finding out that her boyfriend cheated on her, answers a Craig’s List ad and ends up living in a loft with three others guys, including metrosexual, yuppie womanizer Schmidt (Max Greenfield); grumpy but down-to-earth bartender Nick (Jake Johnson); and eccentric but loyal radio producer Winston (Lamorne Morris).  Also interwoven into this mix is Jess’ childhood friend CeCe (Hannah Simone), a deadpan model who has more street smarts than Jess but tends to make poorer choices (for a more detailed Synopsis, read here: http://www.aceshowbiz.com/tv/new_girl/summary.html).

When: Season 7 aired from April 10, 2018, to May 15, 2018, on Fox.

Where: The show is set in Los Angeles, California.

Why: Chief CP Kylie found this show on Netflix, having had some interest in it when it was first advertised, because I love Zooey Deschanel, but for some reason, I wasn’t able to catch it when it was on, and I didn’t place priority on it because it seemed like an updated rehashing of Friends for the Millennial generation.  Yet, so many people, both trusted friends and critics alike, said it was funny; therefore, once it became available on Netflix, I binge watched the first two seasons before watching it in real – or almost real – time. For this latest CPU! podcast episode, our continued pair of fellow New Girl fans joined me around the water cooler to recap New Girl Season 7 and to Look Back at the whole series, which ended its run this year.

How – as in How’s It Going? (THOUGHTS…at present)

CPU! previously covered New Girl in both blog and podcast format.  To catch up on prior coverage, click some handy hyper or otherwise embedded links for your reading and listening pleasure, provided below:

Season 3: Read here

Seasons 4 & 5

Season 6

Our small but robust panel of returning True Americans, namely Kristen and Sarah, once again struggles through the latest season’s antics of Jess (Deschanel), Nick (Johnson), Schmidt (Greenfield), Winston (Morris), and CeCe (Simone).  We cover notable situations from Season 7 and the final eight episodes, as the show closes the book on the relationships, romantic and otherwise, between our five beloved if erstwhile loft-mates. We also spend some time briefly looking back at the show as a whole and comparing all of the seasons, including how they made us feel and react as ready and willing viewers, though it can be fairly said that our panel’s particular level of devotion to this quirky sitcom definitely ended on a low note, which we discuss at length in the embedded episode below.

This particular episode was recorded in November 2018, and there are, without question, MAJOR SPOILERS, as the panelists cover key plot points, comedic situations, jokes, and sight gags of both Season 7 and really all of New Girl. Listen at your own risk, and let us know what you think by commenting below!

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Old Questions

1) REPEAT QUESTION: If Jess and Nick get back together, can it be new and fresh?  The panel says: “will they or won’t they, and just move on!”

NEW ANSWER: If by new and fresh, we mean that they finally are committed to their commitment, then the answer is “they will.”  Jess and Nick are together at the start of Season 7 and seem to be fairly comfortable with the idea of it – so much so that Nick spends most of this brief final season planning how to propose to Jess, until he finally achieves his proposal in his consummately awkward, Nick-type way.

2) With an impending time jump, where will all of our characters be as the final eight episodes commence? Will Nick and Jess be together still?  Will Nick and Jess get married?  Will Winston and Aly still be together?  Will we see their wedding, or are we bypassing Winston’s inevitable nuptials?  What will CeCe and Schmidt’s adorable child be, look like, and be named?  Will they get pregnant again?

ANSWERS:

  • Nick and Jess are still together.  In fact, as Season 7 begins, they have toured the world for Nick’s massively popular young adult book series, “The Pepperwood Chronicles,” and have returned to LA, particularly as Nick’s publisher demands more from Nick.
  • Nick spends most of the season attempting to propose to Jess at just the right moment.  He never reaches the right moment, but he does eventually propose to her; she says “yes to the dress,” and they get married in the penultimate episode, auspiciously and awkwardly, as only they can.
  • Winston and Aly are not only still together; they’re married.  We do not get the benefit of seeing much of their wedding, except maybe via brief glimpse in a flashback, but Aly is pregnant at the beginning of Season 7.  They have a son by the end of the season, who Winston names, with conviction, Dan-Bill.
  • Schmidt and CeCe have a daughter, who they name Ruth and who favors CeCe in physical appearance, owing, no doubt, to a spot-on casting director.  Though they do not become pregnant again by series’ end, CeCe certainly wants to be.

3) Will Jess still be principal of the hippie new age school?

ANSWER: No.  Somehow, Jess chucks that job (or maybe she lost it at the end of Season 6) and decides to cavort around the world with Nick for awhile.

4) Will CeCe’s Boys be a successful modeling agency?  Will she take care of the children, or…?

ANSWER: The modeling agency is successful in a record three years, and CeCe is a high-powered corporate-type, meaning that Schmidt is needed to stay at home with Ruth.  Panelist Sarah struggles with this choice somewhat, as she feels that Schmidt being a house-husband and father is antithetical to the root of his character, but as we discuss in the podcast episode, characters evolve.  Schmidt is happy enough to stay home with Ruth; when he attempts to return to his old job during Season 7, he realizes that he is most content hanging out with his adorable daughter all day, and he ultimately resigns.  Schmidt, apparently, grows up a little.

4) …Will Schmidt quit his high-powered ad executive job and be a stay-at-home dad?

ANSWER: At the start of the season, he is technically on some type of sabbatical, but he is definitely playing stay-at-home dad.  He quits said job by the end of the season, though, and elects full time house-husbandry. 

5) Will Winston and Aly still be police officers?

ANSWER; Winston has achieved a desk job as a detective by the start of this final season.  Aly seems to on maternity leave when we first see her, and she is not so happy about it.

6) What will happen to the loft?

ANSWER: Nick and Jess are still living in the loft as Season 7 begins.  By the end of the season, and through what Winston deems to be the greatest prank of all time, they believe they are evicted from the loft.  Though the eviction is fake, Nick, Jess, and the rest of the gang simply resign themselves to climbing into the moving van and heading to the Millers’ new house.

7) Will Ferguson still be kickin’ it, for feline realz, y’all?

ANSWER: Apparently, one year before we reunite with our loft-mates, we learn that Ferguson kicked nothing but a bucket, owing to a kitty heart attack – though Jess believes she is responsible for his death for a long time, until Winston sets her straight at Ferguson’s funeral.

8) Will Coach return for any part of this next season?

ANSWER: Speaking of Coach, and Ferguson’s funeral, Coach returns for one episode, depicting Ferguson’s protracted funeral at what used to be Nick’s bar, but he and Nick are salty because, as it turns out, Nick loaned Coach a lot of money to start a business, but the business failed, and Coach has not been able to face Nick since.  Not only are things frosty between them, but the funeral, unsurprisingly, also gets weird.

9) Will we see any old and/or beloved recurring characters?

ANSWER: Rob Reiner and Jamie Lee Curtis return as Jess’ parents; Dermot Mulroney returns as Jess’ former fancy boyfriend turned boss; Nelson Franklin returns as Jess’ former boyfriend, current cousin, Robby; David Walton returns as Jess’ former boyfriend, Dr. Sam; Curtis Armstrong briefly cameos as former Principal Foster; and Steve Agee appears as Outside Dave.

10) How will the series end?

ANSWER: Nick and Jess get married; CeCe and Schmidt try to get pregnant; Schmidt decides to remain a stay-at-home parent; Winston and Aly have Dan-Bill and find a new cat named NAFTA; Jess attempts to encourage her loft-mates to say goodbye with many acknowledgements of feelings to the loft during Winston’s elaborate eviction prank, but the night of sentiment evolves into a final roaring game of occasional packing and “True American,” which then morphs into a flash-forward of a gathering of each of the couples and their burgeoning families, playing a PG version of the game.  Finally, Winston reveals his “ultimate prank,” complete with his photo plastered on the back of the moving van, but Nick and Jess decide that they’re moving anyway, and everyone goes along for the ride, presumably to live happily, if awkwardly and adorkably, ever after.

PARTING SHOTS

For this panel of New Girl fans, the “adorkable” Jess and her lofty pals still brought some laughs, but the panel universally agrees that the series lasted longer than it should have; in fact, the panelists, your Chief CP included, think the show’s first four seasons are its strongest, followed by a steady and marked decline beginning with the appearance of Megan Fox as a substitute for Zooey Deschanel while she was on maternity leave.  Even though this show started as a contemporary and relevant situation comedy that mixed a few atypical character archetypes into a wildly flavorful (and crunchy) salad of laughs, the lettuce got soggy, what with all the dressing in the form of “will they/won’t they” romantic antics between Nick and Jess.  Plus, the network and the producers left the salad out of the fridge for too long and continued the show far past its expiration date.  The final panel consensus is that the writers failed their presumed mission of providing this talented cast of performers and the characters they portray something more intelligent to do in the final season.  Though the season ended on a quaint if predictable note, and though the characters made our panelists smile at least once per episode, the CPU! panel sees New Girl as a milquetoast knockoff of Friends, as well as a series that could only be recommended to those with similar senses of humor that might, at some point, express interest in it.

THE FUTURE OF THE SHOW

Ended!  New Girl ended in 2018, by mutual agreement of Fox and the show’s producers, after seven seasons.  The first six seasons are available to stream on Netflix; the seventh is on Hulu and the FoxNow app, though the whole series can be purchased via the usual outlets of Amazon, YouTube, and so on.  The panel does not universally recommend New Girl now that the series has ended: panelist Kristen would recommend it only to individuals with similar senses of humor who are not put off by the less-than-subtle similarities to Friends; panelist Sarah would not recommend the show to others, as she feels that there are better shows in similar genres with similar oeuvres; and Chief CP and Moderator Kylie would encourage a watch of anyone who asked me if it was worth watching, but I would not go out of my way to recommend it, given the abject similarities to other sitcoms, such as Friends.  All in all, these responses left the panel with some anticlimactic feelings, as this comedy, which once felt new, fresh, and utterly “adorkable,” seemed to devolve into some level of mediocrity, with pleasantly awkward if empirically beautiful characters occupying a Los Angeles loft that most of them would not otherwise be able to afford in real life.  The panelists might miss the show, in the end, and we all love Zooey, Jake, Max, Lamorne, and Hannah (and some of us really like Damon Wayans, Jr.), but we would not rush to re-watch it (or to watch a reboot) anytime soon.  Take that, gentle viewer and listener, for what it’s worth. 

An image from the series finale of “New Girl” – Jess encourages the gang to properly grieve the loss of the loft in Winston’s self-proclaimed, greatest all-time mess-around.

(left to right) Max Greenfield as Schmidt, Jake Johnson as Nick, Zooey Deschanel as Jess, Lamorne Morris as Winston, Hannah Simone as Cece.
Panelists Sarah and Kristen give “True American” the old college try.
Our Not-So-New Girls, Kristen and Sarah: our “New Girl” panel.

Marvel’s Defenders Series, Episode Ten: Marvel’s Iron Fist, Season Two (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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A new podcast episode of Couch Potatoes Unite!, which is based on a blog of the same name hosted at couchpotatoesunite.wordpress.com. In this episode, recorded in September 2018, our panel of comic book and superhero enthusiasts – including moderator Kylie, Kristen, Nick, Hilary, Kyle, and Spencer – is back Around the Water Cooler as the Marvel’s Defenders Series panel discusses Season 2 of Iron Fist, the fourth property introduced into Netflix’s Marvel wing of its original streaming library. If you have not watched any of Iron Fist (or any of the other Defenders series: Daredevil, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, The Punisher, and The Defenders crossover miniseries), be aware that there are MAJOR SPOILERS! Tell us what you think in the comments below and check out the blog and YouTube for other TV related discussions, in both podcast and blog format. Also, if there are other shows you’re interested in the blog covering, sound off below! Tell us what you like or don’t like. Keep the discussion going!

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PODCAST! – Streaming Originals & Around the Water Cooler: Marvel’s Defenders Series, Episode Ten, “Marvel’s Iron Fist” – the Season Two Recap and Review (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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Moderator: Chief Couch Potato Kylie

THE SPECS:

Who: “Marvel’s Iron Fist” is a web television series based upon the Marvel Comics character Iron Fist and is a Netflix original series, always available on Netflix.

What: “Marvel’s Iron Fist,” created by Scott Buck, is set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU), sharing continuity with the films of the franchise, and is the fourth in a series of shows that led up to a Defenders crossover miniseries. Finn Jones stars as Danny Rand aka Iron Fist, a martial arts expert with the ability to call upon the power of the sacred Iron Fist.

SYNOPSIS

Danny Rand (Jones) returns to New York City, after being presumed dead for 15 years, to reclaim his family company from Harold Meachum and his children, Ward Meachum (Tom Pelphrey) and Joy Meachum (Jessica Stroup). When a threat emerges, Rand must choose between his family’s legacy and his duties as the Iron Fist.

When: Season 2 was released in its entirety to the Netflix streaming library on September 7, 2018, with a total of ten episodes.

Where: The action is set primarily in the New York City, New York, borough of Manhattan, as depicted in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  This season, the action primarily transpires in Chinatown.

Why: To find out why individual podcast panelists started watching this show, listen to the “Iron Fist” Episode 1 recap and review via the link below – though I will say that all of the panelists are fans of the Netflix original library and/or superhero/comic book based shows in their own right and have found themselves eagerly anticipating new entries in Netflix’s “Defenders” series of releases.  As a result, they’re committed to a CPU! series about same!

How – as in How Was It? – THOUGHTS

As long-time listeners should know by now, CPU! is chock full of panelists with a proclivity for comic book and superhero TV shows and films, including your Chief CP. Our Marvel’s Defenders Series was born of this proclivity, as we have already covered the two available seasons of Daredevil; the two available seasons of Jessica Jones; the two available seasons of Luke Cage; the first season of Iron Fist; the one available season of the crossover event miniseries, The Defenders; and the one available season of the first spin-off series, The Punisher.  Listen to the links below:

Marvel’s Defenders Series, Episode One, “Daredevil,” Season 1

Marvel’s Defenders Series, Episode Two, “Jessica Jones,” Season 1

Marvel’s Defenders Series, Episode Three, “Daredevil,” Season 2

Marvel’s Defenders Series, Episode Four, “Luke Cage,” Season 1
Marvel’s Defenders Series, Episode Five, “Iron Fist,” Season 1

Marvel’s Defenders Series, Episode Six, “The Defenders,” Season 1

Marvel’s Defenders Series, Episode Seven, “The Punisher,” Season 1

Marvel’s Defenders Series, Episode Eight, “Jessica Jones,” Season 2

Marvel’s Defenders Series, Episode Nine, “Luke Cage,” Season 2

In this, the tenth episode of our Marvel’s Defenders Series, we revisit the fourth in Netflix’s series of Marvel-centered shows that led up to The Defenders miniseries, namely Iron Fistfeaturing Defenders Series panelists Nick, Kristen, Hilary, Kyle, and Spencer.  In this episode, our panelists experience multiple “nerdgasms” over not only a vast and dramatic improvement over Season 1 but a growing addiction to the mythos and mythology behind “The Immortal Iron Fist.”  Common reactions to this season universally praise story execution; improved direction; Jessica Henwick as Colleen Wing; better pacing; the improvement of Ward Meachum (Pelphrey) as a character; the thrilling crossover appearances of Luke Cage character Misty Knight (Simone Missick), possibly seeding a “Heroes for Hire” entry – or even “Daughters of the Dragon” – in this Netflix lineup; and a more focused sense of story direction overall compared to Season 1.  Though our panel would have willingly gobbled up a third season, noting that we recorded this episode before Netflix canceled both the Luke Cage and Iron Fist solo series, alternatively, we would all also eagerly watch a first season of “Heroes for Hire” or “Daughters of the Dragon.”  To hear us hash out these opinions further, listen to our discussion via the embedded link below.

This podcast was recorded in September 2018, and there are, without question, MAJOR SPOILERS, as we cover major plot points throughout the second season of Iron Fist.  Do you agree or disagree?  Listen at your own risk, and let us know what you think by commenting below.

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Remember, new episodes and blog posts are published weekly!  Next Wednesday, our comic book oriented streak continues as our Gotham panel returns to the Water Coolerschedule permitting, to reason whether the highly inconsistent “Batman” prequel sustained its better momentum in the back half of Season 4, now its penultimate season, as the fifth season was deemed its to-be last by the Fox network. Stay tuned!

Lingering Questions

1) Netflix has canceled both Luke Cage and Iron Fist.  Are they paving the way, via efficiency of cost, for “Heroes for Hire”/”Daughters of the Dragon?”  Or, did the streaming giant actually give up on two of the properties comprising its unique corner of the Marvel Cinematic Universe for any of the following reasons: low ratings for Iron Fist; disagreements with the Luke Cage show-runner; and/or the fact that Disney/Marvel is starting its own streaming service and is gradually relieving Netflix of these properties?  When, if ever, will we know the truth?

2) Who is the Pirate Queen, from which Colleen is descended?

3) Are Danny and Colleen doomed to spend the rest of their days as friends only, having ended their romantic relationship?  Were Misty and Ward really flirting over her “Maserati” arm?

4) How involved would Mary/Walker aka Typhoid Mary (Alice Eve) have been with Danny, Colleen, or any other purveyor of the Iron Fist?  Will she now transfer to Daredevil, as she is traditionally a “Daredevil” villain, with this show’s cancellation?

5) Would Bethany have had Ward’s baby?  Would Ward have been able to convince Bethany to permit him a connection to his child?

6) What would Joy (Stroup) have done, now that her plan for revenge has been foiled and since she suffered horrific injuries via the betraying and murderous hands of Davos aka Steel Serpent (Sacha Dhawan)?

7) Would Davos have escaped from jail?  Would he have come after Danny?  Would he have been broken out by some other faction, like remnants of the Hand or some other Marvel criminal and/or ninja organization? Or, would he have powered up his rage-driven chi again and created his own means of escape?

8) Would we have seen Danny’s journey to regain the power of the Iron Fist, particularly via his predecessor, Orson Randall?  Would we have met Orson?  Would we have seen the Iron Fist Guide or Book that provides the secrets of the power of the Iron Fist?

9) Would we ever have met Sao Lao?

10) If “Heroes for Hire” and/or “Daughters of the Dragon” is/are launched, would these series resolve the considerable loose ends/cliffhangers posed by the ends of the second seasons of Luke Cage and Iron Fist?

PARTING SHOTS

Frankly, listeners, ever since our panel learned of the cancellation of Iron Fist, we have vacillated widely and wildly between shock, stunned silence, and angry outcry.  Our panel universally enjoys this property; all six of our members rank it among the “Top 3” of our individual favorite Defenders (including The Punisher, not including The Defenders crossover miniseries). Kylie and Kristen rank it tied for first (with Daredevil and Jessica Jones, respectively); Hilary and Kyle rank it second after Daredevil; and Spencer and Nick rank it third after Daredevil and The PunisherIn fact, our panel unanimously recommends Iron Fist to fans of comic books, particularly from the Marvel universe; fans of the various Defenders series; fans of the character; fans of kung fu and karate movies; and fans of epic fantasy along the lines of Star Wars or, more on the nose, stylized martial arts epics like Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.  The panel generally and universally agrees that Iron Fist is well-performed (yes, including Finn Jones!) and aptly written and directed with markedly improved pacing and story execution in Season 2.

The entire panel experienced even more rapturous and engaged fun watching the second season of this series and believes that some of the criticism from trade critics and viewers alike remains unduly harsh, as the panel uniformly asserts that many who find more than small faults with this series may have missed (or simply do not prefer) its tendency toward subtleties and foreshadowing.  They may also not understand or appreciate the fact that Jones is playing a childlike character in an adult’s body who is also meant to be a fish out of water – from an ethnic as well as a “this dimension, that dimension” perspective.  Plus, those that offer frustration by his lack of growth as a character in the first season should have been able to appreciate the character’s turnaround in the second.

The panel, further, vehemently disagrees with the “white washing” controversy surrounding this show; while we acknowledge that white washing is prevalent in mainstream Hollywood and is a potential problem, Danny Rand as a character is white in the comics and is meant to be the “other” in the mystical village in which he spent his childhood, as well as in Manhattan when he tries to reintroduce himself into his former life.  The entire panel, therefore, recommends re-watching with an open mind for those who struggled with some of these aspects and a first watch for those interested in the Defenders as a whole.

On the other hand, especially with the cancellation of this and the Luke Cage series confirmed and on the books, all panelists, including super-fan Kyle, effused enthusiasm for the prospect of a “Heroes for Hire” or “Daughters of the Dragon” spin-off vehicle, or two, if Netflix is secretly considering converting these two properties into either or both of these more efficient, more cost-effective, and likely more popular adaptations that have enjoyed a greater longevity of life in the comics. While we wait for Netflix’s decision about these new series possibilities, fortunately for us, Marvel’s Daredevil was released on October 19, and the Defenders panel is already ready already for the next chapter.  Stay tuned!

THE FUTURE OF THE SHOW

Canceled!  Netflix canceled Iron Fist on October 12, 2018, after two seasons.  CPU! will continue the Marvel’s Defenders Series as long as Netflix continues to produce seasons of Daredevil, Jessica Jones, and The Punisher, though we remain ever hopeful for new series devoted to “Heroes for Hire” and/or to “Daughters of the Dragon.”  As always, CPU! will keep you informed of all Netflix/Marvel coverage.

LOOKING AHEAD

The CPU! Marvel’s Defenders Series panel will return to the Water Cooler shortly to review the third season of Daredevil, about which our devoted panelists expressed the utmost excitement, and to record post-mortem reactions to the cancellations of the solo series of Luke Cage and Iron Fist. Until then!

NEXT CPU! LIVE!

CPU! is going live again!!!  CPU! will next be LIVE at Grand Rapids Comic-Con. for our third annual appearance at the Con, on November 10, 2018, at 7:00 PM!  In that live podcast (also streamed to our Facebook page), a brand new panel will gather together to debate the multifaceted, multi-generational universe behind Star Trek. This panel will also seed a new ongoing series panel for the podcast!  Like our Facebook page or follow us on Twitter and Instagram to keep abreast of all the details, but here’s the art for it for now!  Stay tuned!

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DC Television Universe, Episode Fifteen: Supergirl, Season Three (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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A new podcast episode of Couch Potatoes Unite!, which is based on a blog of the same name hosted at couchpotatoesunite.wordpress.com. In this episode, recorded in October 2018, our DC Television Universe or DCTU panel – including moderator Kylie, Hilary, Kyle, Spencer, Kristen, and Nick – reconvenes Around the Water Cooler for the fifteenth episode of our DCTU ongoing series.  In this episode, the panel discusses Season 3 of the Arrowverse’s final spin-off, Supergirl. If you have not watched any of Supergirl, be aware that there are MAJOR SPOILERS! Tell us what you think in the comments below and check out the blog and YouTube for other TV related discussions, in both podcast and blog format. Also, if there are other shows you’re interested in the blog covering, sound off below! Tell us what you like or don’t like. Keep the discussion going!

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