The Will & Grace Revives Series, Episode Two: Will & Grace, Season Nine/Revival Season One (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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A new episode of Couch Potatoes Unite!, which is based on a blog of the same name hosted at couchpotatoesunite.wordpress.com. In this episode, recorded in July 2018, one of our sassiest panels – including moderator Kylie, Andrew, Jeremy, and Emily D –  gathered Around the Water Cooler to recap and review the first revival season, otherwise known as Season Nine, of NBC’s totally fabulous classic sitcom Will & Grace.  This is the second part of a CPU! podcast miniseries in which we look back to look forward at this revival of one of our favorite television programs, which will, in turn, connect to “Water Cooler” coverage of further revival seasons of the show as long as they are made.  If you have not watched any of Will & Grace, be aware that there are MAJOR SPOILERS. Tell us what you think in the comments below, and check out the blog and YouTube for other TV related discussions, in both podcast and blog format. Also, if there are other shows you’re interested in the blog covering, sound off below! Tell us what you like or don’t like. Keep the discussion going!

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PODCAST! – Around the Water Cooler: “Will & Grace,” the Season Nine Review and Recap – The Will & Grace Revives Series, Episode Two (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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Moderator: Chief Couch Potato Kylie

THE SPECS:

Who: “Will & Grace,” a situation comedy that aired on NBC from 1998 to 2006 until it was revived on the same network in 2017.

What: Created by Max Mutchnick and David Kohan, Will & Grace focuses on the friendship between best friends Will Truman (Eric McCormack), a gay lawyer, and Grace Adler (Debra Messing), a straight interior designer.

SYNOPSIS

Will & Grace is set in New York City and also features Will and Grace’s friends Karen Walker (Megan Mullally), an alcoholic socialite, and Jack McFarland (Sean Hayes), a flamboyantly gay actor. The continuing interplay of relationships features the trials and tribulations of dating, marriage, divorce, and casual sex as well as comical key stereotypes of gay and Jewish culture.

When: The first revival season, Season 9, aired from September 28, 2017, to April 5, 2018, Thursdays on NBC.

Where: The show is set in New York City, New York (mostly in Manhattan).

Why: Listen to the first podcast episode in this series for the panelists’ individual stories on how they found Will & Grace.

How – as in How Was It?! (THOUGHTS)

If you have not listened to the first episode in our “Will & Grace Revives Series,” click the embedded link below:

Looking Back at the Original “Will & Grace,” Seasons 1-8

Frequent CPU! contributors and panelists often suggest shows for CPU! to cover in our podcast episodes – loyal listeners should have picked up on this particular trend by now. Well, when the Peacock network decided to join the ranks of conglomerates reviving successful network properties from periods past, and Will & Grace became the chosen candidate for NBC’s latest revival featuring every member of the original cast except Shelley Morrison (Rosario), some of the CPU!ers became decidedly atwitter and began encouraging a W&G podcast series in short order.

Here at CPU!, then, we saw an opportunity for a new CPU! podcast series in which CPU! panelists could look back at the program that started it all while looking forward “around the water cooler” as new season(s) of the revival are released. Thus, herein we offer the second episode of our own miniseries covering the various versions of this popular, and frankly fabulous, sitcom, which we at CPU! are calling our “Will & Grace Revives” series.

Returning panelists Andrew, Jeremy, and Emily (D) join your Chief CP around the Water Cooler once again for this second episode of our “Will & Grace Revives” series.  In this conversation, we discuss our favorite and least favorite moments from the first revival season, Season 9, of Will & Grace, as, after eleven years off the air, we return to the lives of Will, Grace, Jack, Karen, their friends, their neighbors, their families, and their rather copious respective lines of romantic partners.  Oh, and about that original series finale?  Fuggedaboutit!  No, literally, forget about it.  As it turns out, Karen was having some sort of drug-induced flight of fancy while taking a nap.  Her dreams are weird!

This podcast was recorded in July 2018 and there are, without question, MAJOR SPOILERS, as we cover major plot points throughout the Will & Grace series. Listen at your own risk, and let us know what you think by commenting below!

Follow us on Facebook, Twitter (@cpupodcast), Instagram (@couchpotatoesunite), Pinterest (@cpupodcast), or email us at couchpotatoesunitepodcast@gmail.com – or subscribe to this blog, the YouTube channel, our iTunes channel, our Stitcher Radio channel , and/or find us on Google Play to keep track of brand new episodes.  In the meantime, let us know what you think!  Comment or review us in any of the above forums – we’d love your feedback!

Remember, new episodes and blog posts are published weekly!  Next Wednesday, our DCTU Series panel returns to the Water Cooler to begin the panel’s annual marathon of end of season coverage of the four Arrowverse shows.  Our first episode in the coming series of four revisits those wacky but lovable (DC’s) Legends of Tomorrow, as our spicy superhero-loving panel discusses Season Three of the Arrowverse’s second spin-off.  Stay tuned!

Questions, Impressions, and Future Considerations

1) Will we see more Elliott (Michael Angarano) next season?

2) Can Rosie O’Donnell be brought back as Elliott’s biological mother, so that he will have to deal with his two gay biological parents despite his newfound religious conservatism?

3) Will there be any more musical episodes?

4) Will there be any more live episodes?

5) Will we see some of the more famous or infamous guest stars of the original run, such as the inimitable Cher?

6) How long will the relationship between Will’s mom (Blythe Danner) and Grace’s dad (Robert Klein) last?

7) How long will the business partnership between Will and Grace last?

8) Will Jack find his one and only true love?  Is he truly ready for the dread C-word (“commitment”)?

9) Will we ever meet Stan, Karen’s rich husband, face to face?

10) Will we ever see Leo (Harry Connick, Jr.) or Vince (Bobby Cannavale), Grace and Will’s ex-husbands, respectively, again?  Should we root for a reconciliation, at least for Will and Vince, since Leo has cheated on Grace more times than should really be forgivable?  What do you think, listener?

PARTING SHOTS

Our panelists discussed a wide-ranging assortment of opinions about the first revival season of Will & Grace.  One loved it, one claimed to hate it, and others expressed markedly mixed feelings about revisiting this show eleven years after it left the airwaves the first time around.  In the end, though, everyone agreed that this initial revival season provided some fun escapist nostalgia and, even, the occasional reason to think. Several panelists, however, also declared that moments in the season felt forced – for laughs, for message-filled dialogue, and, at times, to reproduce the chemistry that was.  In fact, the panel mostly agreed, with the notable exception of one panelist, that, though most of the cast managed to reclaim the characters that they had not played in eleven years with what seemed like ease, Grace’s own Debra Messing visibly struggled to find the core of the Grace character for a few episodes, whether due to a lack of confidence and/or potentially due to age, in that she seemed unable to engage in the physical comedy that she brought to the character previously.  Plus, her comedic delivery frequently rang as “over the top,” though Ms. Messing eventually found a rhythm that resembled not only the younger version of the character, and of herself, but also reminded the viewer why Grace and Will have been such watchable and such lovably co-dependent roommates and friends for so many years.

Still, at times, some panelists also struggled with what appeared to be didactic dialogue about our political state of affairs while, at the same time, other panelists expressed being largely grateful that the writers and actors stayed true to the core characters they created, now 20 years ago, particularly the “in your face” antics of perennially drunk and often inappropriate socialite Karen. Additionally, a couple of panelists also criticized some of the more obvious nods to the original eight seasons, as the producers appeared to return to a perceived endless parade of guest stars, winks, and nods to the original run of the show, similar to what seemed to populate the last few seasons of Will & Grace prime.  Yet, all panelists, even if one was begrudging, admitted to having fun while viewing this revival run – even if only for a few isolated episodes, jokes, moments, and particularly while watching the Jack and Karen characters.  To wit, the panelists universally praised three specific episodes: the one in which Jack learned he had a grandson; the one in which Karen mourned the death of Rosario while throwing her a quinceanera; and the one in which Grace tried to help her dad following the loss of her mom, formerly played by the now deceased Debbie Reynolds (rest in peace).

Ultimately, the panelists universally recommend the revival season to long-time fans of the original series, particularly those who have some enthusiasm for those first eight seasons, as the panelists believe that new viewers watching only Season 9 for the first time would not be able to appreciate all of the inside jokes, winks, nods, and nudges to the tapestry of comedy woven by the first run of the show. Plus, if one enjoys humor with plenty of sass, one would be remiss not to at least check out the whole show, original and revival seasons together, as the four main characters and plenty of the supporting ones will surely meet any prescribed need for sass within minutes of the opening credits.  Our panelists also advocate that Will & Grace has something to offer most everyone with an open mind and a willingness to see two sides of any coin – as well as a lot of spicy and sexy joke-telling.  Don’t say we didn’t warn you, poodles.

LOOKING AHEAD

Will & Grace was renewed for tenth and eleventh seasons by the Peacock network; Season 10 premieres on Thursday, October 4, 2018, at 9:00 PM.  If you would like to catch up on any of Will & Grace, including the original eight seasons of the show, all seasons are currently available to stream on Hulu.  In the meantime, our Will & Grace panel will next return to the Water Cooler following the airing of the tenth season finale, some time in 2019, as this panel will now be converted to one of our ongoing show panels (with two openings!  Contact us if you would like to join the panel!).  Until then!

The Will & Grace Revives Series, Episode One: Will & Grace, Looking Back (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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A new episode of Couch Potatoes Unite!, which is based on a blog of the same name hosted at couchpotatoesunite.wordpress.com. In this episode, recorded in July 2018, one of our sassiest panels – including moderator Kylie, Andrew, Jeremy, and new panelist Emily D – gathered together to Look Back and to reminisce about fan and CPU! favorite, the original eight seasons of so-called must-see sitcom Will & Grace.  This is the first part of a CPU! podcast miniseries examining one of our favorite television programs, which will connect to “Water Cooler” coverage of the revival NBC seasons of the show (which began in 2017).  If you have not watched any of Will & Grace, be aware that there are MAJOR SPOILERS.  Tell us what you think in the comments below, and check out the blog and YouTube for other TV related discussions, in both podcast and blog format. Also, if there are other shows you’re interested in the blog covering, sound off below! Tell us what you like or don’t like. Keep the discussion going!

Editor: Kylie C. Piette
Logo: Rebecca Wallace
Marketing Graphic Artist: Krista Pennington

PODCAST! – Looking Back at “Will & Grace” – The Will & Grace Revives Series, Episode One (MAJOR SPOILERS) + The Best Written TV (#94)

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Moderator: Chief Couch Potato Kylie

THE SPECS:

Who: “Will & Grace,” a situation comedy that aired on NBC from 1998 to 2006.

What: Created by Max Mutchnick and David Kohan, Will & Grace focuses on the friendship between best friends Will Truman (Eric McCormack), a gay lawyer, and Grace Adler (Debra Messing), a straight interior designer.

SYNOPSIS

Will & Grace is set in New York City and also features Will and Grace’s friends Karen Walker (Megan Mullally), an alcoholic socialite, and Jack McFarland (Sean Hayes), a flamboyantly gay actor. The interplay of relationships features the trials and tribulations of dating, marriage, divorce, and casual sex as well as comical key stereotypes of gay and Jewish culture.

When: The show aired for eight seasons, from 1998 to 2006 on NBC.

Where: The show is set in New York City, New York (mostly in Manhattan).

Why: Listen to the podcast episode for the panelists’ individual stories on how they found Will & Grace.

How – as in How Much Do We Love this Show?!

Frequent CPU! contributors and panelists often suggest shows for CPU! to cover in our podcast episodes – loyal listeners should have picked up on this particular trend by now. Well, when the Peacock network decided to join the ranks of conglomerates reviving successful network properties from periods past, and Will & Grace became the chosen candidate for NBC’s latest revival featuring every member of the original cast except Shelley Morrison (Rosario), some of the CPU!ers became decidedly atwitter and began encouraging a W&G podcast series in short order.

Here at CPU!, then, we saw an opportunity for a new CPU! podcast series in which CPU! panelists could look back at the program that started it all while looking forward “around the water cooler” as new season(s) of the revival are released. Thus, herein we offer the first episode of our own miniseries covering the various versions of this popular, and frankly fabulous, sitcom, which we at CPU! are calling our “Will & Grace Revives” series.

On the panel, I am joined by frequent panelist Andrew, who typically hangs out most on Netflix for Unbreakable Orange Fuller Reasons Why (among others); frequent panelist Jeremy who gives 13 Reasons Why Supernatural is just a bunch of Stranger Things; and brand new panelist Emily, who on our website shall in future be identified as Emily D (since we have another Emily on panels, now to be identified as Emily S).  In this first episode of our “Will & Grace Revives” series, we discuss our favorite and least favorite moments from the original eight seasons of Will & Grace, covering the lives of Will, Grace, Jack, Karen, their friends, their neighbors, their families, and their rather copious respective lines of romantic partners.

This podcast was recorded in July 2018 and there are, without question, MAJOR SPOILERS, as we cover major plot points throughout the Will & Grace series. Listen at your own risk, and let us know what you think by commenting below!

Follow us on Facebook, Twitter (@cpupodcast), Instagram (@couchpotatoesunite), Pinterest (@cpupodcast), or email us at couchpotatoesunitepodcast@gmail.com – or subscribe to this blog, the YouTube channel, our iTunes channel, our Stitcher Radio channel , and/or find us on Google Play to keep track of brand new episodes.  In the meantime, let us know what you think!  Comment or review us in any of the above forums – we’d love your feedback!

Remember, new episodes and blog posts are published weekly!  Next Wednesday, we’ll return to our “Will & Grace Revives” series “Around the Water Cooler” for Part Two, when our panel covers the 2017-2018 Revival Season 9Stay tuned!

RECOMMENDATION

Will & Grace is recommended by the entire panel, as the panelists generally describe this comedy as endlessly entertaining, noting that there is not one episode that does not offer at least one laugh-out-loud moment (usually courtesy of the Jack and Karen characters), even when the episode is weaker than others.  The panelists also recognize that, though times have changed and though depictions of LGBTQ+ characters have become more encompassing and progressive as time has passed, stereotypical jokes aside, Will & Grace was pioneering for its time, as gay main characters simply did not exist in the late 90s; as Chief CP Kylie notes multiple times in the discussion, Ellen DeGeneres’ namesake sitcom was canceled in 1998, shortly after Ellen came out on air, and mere months before Will & Grace premiered.  Plus, if you enjoy humor with plenty of sass, you would be remiss not to at least check out this show, as the four main characters and plenty of the supporting ones will surely meet any prescribed need for sass within minutes of the opening credits.  While the panel agrees that not all of the series is perfect, as there was an “off the rails” trajectory that settled into later seasons following the departure of the show’s creators, all panelists also feel that Will & Grace has something to offer most everyone with an open mind and a willingness to see two sides of any coin – as well as a lot of spicy and sexy joke-telling.  Don’t say we didn’t warn you, poodles.

LOOKING AHEAD

Will & Grace was, of course, revived by NBC for a ninth season and was subsequently renewed for tenth and eleventh seasons shortly thereafter by the Peacock network.  If you would like to catch up on the original eight seasons, all original seasons of Will & Grace are currently available to stream on Hulu.  In the meantime, our Will & Grace panel will shortly return to the Water Cooler next week for Part Two of this “Look Back to Look Forward” series, during which we will spicily dissect the first revival season, Season 9, of this newly returned sitcom.  Until then!

Schitt’s (Schitt$) Creek, Seasons 1-2: Part One of the “Catching Up on Schitt’s (Schitt$) Creek” Miniseries (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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A new podcast episode of Couch Potatoes Unite!, which is based on a blog of the same name hosted at couchpotatoesunite.wordpress.com.  In this episode, recorded in June 2018, our panel of established CPU! faithful – moderator Kylie, Nick, Sarah, Andrew, and Amy – convenes for the first time around the CPU! Water Cooler to discuss the first two seasons of a quirky Canadian comedy depicting a riches to rags family with hearts of gold, i.e. Schitt’s/Schitt$ Creek, in this, Part One of our two-part “Catching Up on Schitt’s (Schitt$) Creek” Miniseries.  As always, if you have not watched any of Schitt’s/Schitt$ Creek, be aware that there are, most definitely, MAJOR SPOILERS! Tell us what you think in the comments below and check out the blog and YouTube for other TV related discussions, in both podcast and blog format. Also, if there are other shows you’re interested in the blog covering, sound off below! Tell us what you like or don’t like. Keep the discussion going!

Editor: Kylie C. Piette
Logo: Rebecca Wallace
Marketing Graphic Artist: Krista Pennington

PODCAST! – Pilots, Premieres, and First Looks: “Schitt’s (Schitt$) Creek” – Recapping Seasons 1 and 2; Part One of CPU!’s “Catching Up on Schitt’s (Schitt$) Creek” Miniseries (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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Moderator: Chief Couch Potato Kylie

THE SPECS:

Who: “Schitt’s (Schitt$) Creek” is a Canadian sitcom, which airs on cable network POP in the United States, though it is currently on hiatus.

What:  “Schitt’s Creek,” created by Eugene Levy and Dan Levy, is based on a series of situations contrasting a once-rich family and their worldly big-city attitudes with sudden small-town living and the honest, down-to-earth, hard-working residents of fictional town Schitt’s Creek.

When: The first season aired from February 11, 2015, to May 6, 2015, and the second season aired from January 19, 2016, to March 29, 2016, on cable network POP in the United States (after first airing on the CBC in Canada), each with a total of thirteen episodes.

Where: The action is set primarily in the fictional town of Schitt’s Creek, which we can only guess is somewhere in Ontario, Canada, since that is where the show is filmed.

Why: To find out why individual podcast panelists started watching this show, listen to the podcast episode via the link below!

How – as in How Was It?

The pilot/premiere rating scale:

***** – I HAVE TO WATCH EVERYTHING. HOLY SMOKES!

**** – Well, it certainly seems intriguing. I’m going to keep watching, but I see possible pitfalls in the premise.

*** – I will give it six episodes and see what happens. There are things I like, and things I don’t. We’ll see which “things” are allowed to flourish.

** – I will give it three episodes. Chances are, I’m mainly bored, but there is some intrigue or fascination that could hold it together. No matter how unlikely.

* – Pass on this one, guys. It’s a snoozer/not funny/not interesting/not my cup of tea… there are too many options to waste time on this one.

Schitt’s (Schitt$) Creek = 4.8, by average of the podcast panel.

SYNOPSIS

The series stars Eugene Levy as Johnny Rose, a wealthy video store magnate, and Catherine O’Hara as his wife Moira, a formerly successful soap star. The family loses their fortune when their business manager fails to pay their taxes. They are forced to rebuild their lives with their sole remaining asset: a small town named Schitt’s Creek which they had bought their son as a joke birthday gift years before. The story revolves around the family’s life living in two adjacent rooms of a rundown motel with their pampered twenty-something adult children, David and Alexis, played by Dan Levy and Annie Murphy, respectively.  The cast also features Chris Elliott, Jennifer Robertson, and Emily Hampshire as series regulars.

THOUGHTS

By popular request, though notably by established CPU! panelists and viewers, Schitt$ Creek has, as of this publication, become a new show panel at the CPU! Water Cooler!  Requesting CPU! panelists include Nick, our panel silver medalist who likes to meditate in CPU!’s “nerdy” and “funny” realms; his wife Sarah, who joins him for talks about lots of shows as long as they are not comic book adaptations; Netflix and “Looking Back” aficionado Andrew; and Amy, who appeared once before around the Water Cooler to Look Back at Ally McBeal. These four and the Chief CP as moderator gathered “Around the Water Cooler” to take a “First Look” at the first two seasons of this quirky comedy. In so doing, the panelists examine the Rose family dynamics and contributing personalities, laugh along with the folks the Roses meet in the town, and generally praise this show effusively. The panel generally finds the series to be as smart as it is subtly funny and unlike anything on typical American TV nowadays, despite the show’s clear influences (as the panel sees it) of Arrested Development, It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia, The Riches, and Eugene Levy and Catherine O’Hara’s prior projects, with a particular flavor of Waiting for Guffman contributing to the proceedings. Of course, in Schitt$ Creek, these influences mix together to form a special sauce – or, perhaps, chicken enchiladas – entirely of the show’s, and its creators’, own making.

Tonight’s episode is the first part of a two-part miniseries in which CPU! gets caught up on this show, which premiered on United States cable network POP in 2015.  In this episode, our panel reflects on and recaps the first two seasons of Schitt$ Creek, reacting to the various quirky characters and notably hilarious situations in which they find themselves.

This episode was recorded in June 2018, and there are, without question, MAJOR SPOILERS, as the panelists cover key plot points of the first two seasons. Listen at your own risk, and let us know what you think by commenting below!

Follow us on Facebook, Twitter (@cpupodcast), Instagram (@couchpotatoesunite), Pinterest (@cpupodcast), or email us at couchpotatoesunitepodcast@gmail.com – or subscribe to this blog, the YouTube channel, our iTunes channel, our Stitcher Radio channel , and/or find us on Google Play to keep track of brand new episodes.  In the meantime, let us know what you think!  Comment or review us in any of the above forums – we’d love your feedback!

Remember, new episodes and blog posts are published weekly!  Next Thursday, schedule permitting, our Series of Unfortunate Events panel returns to the Water Cooler to react to Season Two of Netflix’s adaptation of the Lemony Snicket novels.  Stay tuned!

RECOMMENDATION

Schitt$ Creek is universally recommended by our CPU! panel to fans of the actors in the cast, particularly of Eugene Levy and Catherine O’Hara, and to fans of comparable and/or influential fare like Arrested Development, It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia, The Riches, and director/actor Christopher Guest’s feature films, in which Levy and O’Hara made many joint appearances.  The panelists agreed that anyone who watches this comedy “can get something out of it,” particularly whatever the viewer wants to get out of it, because the show is an easy, low-risk binge and, therefore, low commitment overall.  The humor is distinctly the show’s own and may not appeal to everyone; however, it is subtle and satirical all at the same time.  The characters have some caricature-like qualities but embody those qualities so completely, they become fully fleshed out personae for the viewer and accessible to anyone, regardless of background.  One panelist described the series as “surprising,” stating that he did not expect to like it as much as he did.  Additionally, the panel generally praises the comedic performances of the four main actors and the writing and generally characterizes the show as “better and better” the more one watches.   In any event, the panelists find the show “fun” and believe those who connect to it will have as much fun as we have had watching and discussing it so far!

THE FUTURE OF THE SHOW

The CBC and, therefore, POP renewed Schitt$ Creek for a fifth season, which is expected to premiere in January 2019, though no tentative premiere date has yet been announced. CPU! will next visit Schitt$ Creek for Part Two of this “Catch-Up Miniseries” following the release of Season 4 to Netflix, which currently has the streaming rights to the series and which has, in the past, released seasons of this show to its service in the fall.  Our next Schitt$ Creek episode will focus upon the third and fourth seasons of the show and will bring our humble podcast to current times, appreciations, and readiness for Schitt$ Creek coverage going forward.  Like, follow, and/or subscribe to the website, iTunes, YouTube, Stitcher Radio, Google Play, or our social media accounts to stay abreast of new episodes regarding Schitt$ Creek as well as new episodes for all of our podcast panels!  And, if you feel so inclined, please leave us a review.  Thank you! 🙂

Marvel’s Defenders Series, Episode Eight, Marvel’s Jessica Jones, Season Two (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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A new podcast episode of Couch Potatoes Unite!, which is based on a blog of the same name hosted at couchpotatoesunite.wordpress.com. In this episode, recorded in June 2018, our panel of comic book and superhero enthusiasts – including moderator Kylie, Kristen, Nick, Hilary, Kyle, and Spencer – is back Around the Water Cooler as the Marvel’s Defenders Series panel discusses Season 2 of Jessica Jones, the second property introduced into Netflix’s Marvel wing of its original streaming library. If you have not watched any of Jessica Jones (or any of the other Defenders series: Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, The Punisher, and The Defenders crossover miniseries), be aware that there are MAJOR SPOILERS! Tell us what you think in the comments below and check out the blog and YouTube for other TV related discussions, in both podcast and blog format. Also, if there are other shows you’re interested in the blog covering, sound off below! Tell us what you like or don’t like. Keep the discussion going!

Editor: Kylie C. Piette
Logo: Rebecca Wallace
Marketing Graphic Artist: Krista Pennington

Episode Sponsored By: Heritage Theatre Group