Orange is the New Black, Season 5 (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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A new podcast episode of Couch Potatoes Unite!, which is based on a blog of the same name hosted at In this episode, our panel–including moderator Chief Couch Potato Kylie, Kristen, Nick, Krista, Amanda, and Andrew–is Around the Water Cooler and Streaming Originals as we discuss and recap Season 5 of Orange is the New Black.  This episode was recorded in October 2017, and if you haven’t seen OITNB through the fifth season, be aware that there are MAJOR SPOILERS! Tell us what you think in the comments below and check out the blog and YouTube for other TV related discussions, in both podcast and blog format.  Also, if there are other shows you’re interested in the blog/podcast covering, sound off below! Tell us what you like or don’t like. Keep the discussion going!

Editor: Kylie C. Piette
Logo: Rebecca Wallace


PODCAST! – Around the Water Cooler & Streaming Originals: “Orange is the New Black,” The Season 5 Recap and Discussion (MAJOR SPOILERS)

Moderator: Chief Couch Potato Kylie


Who: “Orange is the New Black” is available to Netflix subscribers exclusively, as it is Netflix produced original content.

What: “Orange is the New Black,” a comedy drama about a Manhattan woman whose past catches up to her and for which she must serve time in federal prison.


Taylor Schilling plays Piper Chapman, a seemingly run-of-the-mill woman and maker of homemade soaps. Unfortunately, Piper learns that she must serve a short sentence in federal prison after she is implicated in the bust of an international drug cartel, of which her former girlfriend, Alex Vause (Laura Prepon), was a member and who Piper aided and abetted. What’s more, Piper finds, at first, that she is wholly unequipped for prison. Though some, like unabashed, self-proclaimed “lesbian junkie” Nicky Nichols (Natasha Lyonne), are kind and helpful to her, others show her no mercy. In addition, the guards, all men, are mostly drunk on their own power, the prison counselors play favorites and are easily offended, and the prison population is divided by race, unofficially but automatically, which offends Piper’s liberal sensibilities.  If all that weren’t complicated enough, Piper’s ex Alex is sent to the same prison, and Piper’s emotions are deeply conflicted, as she reasons that only Alex could have pointed the finger to get her in trouble in the first place, while at the same time, the old attractions between the two women remain undeniably present.

When: All 13 Season 5 episodes became available for viewing on June 9, 2017.

Where: The show is set in New York, though flashbacks for each of the prisoners who comprise the cast of characters sometimes venture away from New York.

Why: Many panelists saw the teaser trailers for the series while watching other programming on Netflix and also on network TV.  Listen to prior podcast episodes to discover how individual panelists found this show.

How – as in How’s It Going? (THOUGHTS…at present)

CPU! has been covering Orange is the New Black since its debut on Netflix’s ever growing streaming service.  You can read about the first season here and listen to podcast episodes about Seasons 2-4 below:

Orange is the New Black, Season Two

Orange is the New Black, Season Three, Part One

Orange is the New Black, Season Three, Part Two

Orange is the New Black, Season Four

Our OITNB Couch Potatoes and enthusiasts – namely moderator and Chief Couch Potato Kylie, Kristen, Krista, Nick, Amanda, and Andrew – triumphantly return to the CPU! Water Cooler to talk all things Season Five of the wildly popular (and Orange) Netflix drama for this latest podcast episode.  We engaged in our usual heady and heavy discussion about some of the plot lines that we saw emerge in the tightly entertaining and engaging fifth season. What do you think?  Do you agree? Do you disagree? What are your hopes, fears, expectations, speculations, or predictions for the resolution of the fifth season’s cliffhangers going into season six?

This particular CPU! episode was recorded in October 2017, and there are, without question, MAJOR SPOILERS, as the panelists cover key plot points of OITNB Season Five. Listen at your own risk, and let us know what you think by commenting below!

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Remember, new episodes and blog posts are published weekly! In our next episode, schedule permitting, our DCTU/Arrowverse panel will return to the Water Cooler after a brief absence to round-up reactions to all four CW/Arrowverse shows so far this season, just in time for the end of the mid-season hiatus (if scheduling does not permit, our Once Upon a Time panel will appear instead to digest the “soft reboot” of Season 7)!  Stay tuned!

Questions, Predictions, and Future Considerations

Old Questions

1) REPEAT QUESTION: Are the OITNB producers planning to end the show at the end of Piper’s sentence? (That will be a question for awhile).

ANSWER: Piper hasn’t been released yet, so…still a question.

2) Are we to assume that Suzanne’s (Uzo Aduba) flashback this season provided the back story related to the reason for her imprisonment: involuntary manslaughter of a child? Because her flashback episode was situated within the last three jam-packed episodes of the season, the panel assumed this to be the case but was not certain.

ANSWER: Unclear.  OITNB does not revisit Suzanne’s back story at any point during Season Five.

3) Where is the story in terms of Piper’s overall sentence, and how much longer does she have in prison?

ANSWER: Panelist Krista believes, if the source book on which the show is based still provides any kind of story framework, that Piper has two to three months maximum left to her original sentence; however, the show does not focus on time passing in Season Five, as it picks up right after the events of Season Four and transpires over the course of a few days.

4) Will we see Healy (Michael Harney) again?  Panelists Kristen and Kylie predict that we will, since he seems to have voluntarily checked himself into an institution (rather than being involuntarily committed).

ANSWER: Healy does not make an appearance in Season Five…will he appear in future seasons?  Unknown.

5) Will Laverne Cox/Sophia be in Season Five, given that Cox is part of a show that has been picked up by CBS for the new TV season?  How will the prison or the show deal with the controversy of leaving Sophia in solitary for her “protection.”

ANSWER: Well, Laverne’s CBS show (“Doubt”) was quickly canceled after only a couple of episodes; however, she appears in one episode this season.  Because she only appears in one episode, the show bypasses Sophia’s time in solitary and related controversy with little explanation regarding the experience’s effects on her.  Sophia returns to doing hair while the prisoners riot, as of the final moments of the Season Four finale and throughout Season Five.  Perhaps some of the rioters break Sophia out of solitary?  The show offers no explanation for her appearance, but she definitely looks worse for wear when she does appear.

6) Where will Season Five pick up given the end of the season?  Will it pick up right from the moment at which season four ended, or will time of any significance pass?

ANSWER: Season Five picks up at the literal second when Season Four ends.

7) Will Daya (Dascha Polanco) shoot Humps?  Or, will another prisoner intervene?  Or, if she does shoot him, will someone go to bat and take the fall for her?  Will Humps survive this riot?  If he does, will anyone find out about what he did to Maritza, Suzanne, and others?

ANSWER: Daya shoots Humps – in the leg.  She then proceeds to lose the gun for a while, and the only prisoner who seems to care about her welfare and the potential ramifications of her actions is surrogate mama Gloria (Selenis Levya).  Humps is taken to the infirmary to recover; however, Suzanne’s former paramour Maureen decides to exact revenge for his merciless treatment of the prisoners (and for him inciting said present riot) by blowing air bubbles into his breathing tubes.  As a result, Humps suffers a stroke and, subsequently and quietly, dies.  

8) Will Judy King (Blair Brown) make it out of prison?  Will she grab the gun from Daya? Will she be a casualty of that final riot?

ANSWER: Judy King makes it out of prison, with a little help from the white supremacists, who wear hoods, are caught on camera, and are mistaken for Muslim terrorists.  Ah, irony.  Judy then proceeds to try to sell her prison story in an exploitative way by appearing on a prime time news talk show hosted by Meredith Vieira (really?), without much thought about or consideration of the consequences or the potential effect her choices may have on others.  Judy King is kind of The Worst.

9) Will Litchfield continue to run after all of the chaos at the end of Season Four?  Will the prisoners be split up?  Or, is that a way the series might end?

ANSWER: “Continue to run” is a relative turn of phrase, considering that the prisoners are controlling the prison, and mass chaos not only continues but increases as Season Five progresses.  As for the prisoners splitting up…well, when SWAT units enter the building to regain control by force, Leanne and Angie, in a final blaze of glory, decide to burn the prisoner’s paper records and, as a result, start a fire in the prison offices.  As a result, Litchfield is engulfed in flames, and, while prisoners are brought to safety, outside and in the yard, by SWAT team units, two buses appear to ship prisoners, seemingly, to two different alternative prisons.  Where and how will we start Season Six given this information?  Stay tuned.

10) How will Soso and Taystee (Danielle Brooks) deal with their particular grief about Poussey?  Will they come to bond more?  Will Soso remain a part of P’s “family?”

ANSWER: Soso spends most of the season consumed by grief and depression in the wake of Poussey’s death, with minimal support from Poussey’s prison family (the African American girls), though Soso kind of becomes a de facto member of their group.  She does not regain some stability until she decides, in tribute to Poussey, to make an interactive, living, artistic tribute to P, with books from the library where P worked strung from the ceilings throughout the prisoner-controlled Litchfield halls.  In the meantime, Taystee, who is unimpressed by Soso’s methods of dealing with her loss, decides to take matters into her own hands to attempt to achieve justice for her best friend.  She forces Caputo (Nick Sandow) to record a video statement apologizing for Poussey’s death, which she proceeds to upload to the internet.  She also takes on the company allegedly overseeing the prison by entering into hostage negotiations with the company/with negotiator Fig, after the prisoners capture the remaining guards, declare them hostages, and cage them up in a locked guard booth, where many prisoners proceed to torture and to humiliate them.  Unfortunately, Taystee’s efforts are not always successful.  Listen to the podcast episode for details.

11) Will Sister get out of solitary, or will she be left there?

ANSWER: The show, apparently (according to panelists Krista and Nick but escaping the notice of panelists Kylie and Kristen), explains that Sister contracted pneumonia while in solitary and was, therefore, given compassionate release from prison.  So, I guess Sister is gone for good, and at least two of us missed the explanation behind her departure!

12) Will Red (Kate Mulgrew) have a better story line next season?

ANSWER: If getting high on speed pills and becoming the sole object of dishonored guard Piscatella’s ire comprises a better story line, then I would say that Red does alright.

13) Do we still care about Piper and Alex as a couple?  Did Piper miss any of Alex’s written “confessions” that she hid around the prison in an effort to assuage her guilt?

ANSWER: Piper and Alex do everything they can to lay low this season; in fact, Alex makes it her own personal mission to stay out of the fray because she thinks that Piper often sticks her nose where it does not belong and, often, in sacrifice or to the detriment of the stability of their relationship, a subject of much conflict and debate between the two women this season.  Piper, probably for the first genuine time since the beginning of this show, obtains some self-awareness this season.  While she cannot promise Alex that she will always stay out of situations that seem to matter to her, because doing so is not in her nature, she at least promises that she will listen to Alex if Alex expresses unhappiness with Piper’s meddling and mischief.  Piper also proposes marriage to Alex, who accepts the proposal.  So, the panel believes we are sort of stuck caring about them for awhile longer.  As for Alex’s written confessions – either Piper found them all in Season Four or is too distracted to keep looking for them in Season Five, what with all the rioting and such.

14) How long will Nicky remain clean?  Have she and Tuckey (Taryn Manning) just become friends, given Tuckey’s willingness to nurse Nicky through a cold turkey withdrawal from heroin during the prison lock down?

ANSWER: Nicky, though tempted many times by an unguarded prison pharmacy and prisoners’ various stashes, manages to make it through the whole fifth season (which, in reality, transpires over about one to two weeks) without falling off the wagon.  Presumably, she and Tuckey have an understanding, but I would not characterize this understanding as friendship.  Tuckey, further, is distracted by other matters this season.  Listen to the podcast episode for details.

15) Will we see the young, nice guard Bailey again?  Will the old Litchfield guards return in light of all that has happened?  And what exactly did Piscatella do to which Caputo hinted at the end of the season?

ANSWER: We see Bailey, and he is, rightfully, a mess.  Piper helps him escape the Litchfield prisoner regime, but he spends the entire season wracked with justifiable guilt over his involuntary manslaughter of Poussey; he also spends the entire season searching for some sort of redemption or forgiveness of his sin(s), even tracking down Poussey’s father, who can only tell Bailey that he will have to live with what he did to P for the rest of his life.  The old Litchfield guards mostly stay away, smartly, as the prison is overrun, but the show checks in with most of them.  As for Piscatella, it turns out that, at his prior prison job, he slaughtered another prisoner by scalding him in hot shower water after this prisoner brutally beat and killed a different prisoner with whom Piscatella was carrying on an inappropriate relationship in his position as a guard.  Piscatella was also exploring his newfound homosexuality in said relationship, so these dark incidents left Piscatella in a dark place, causing him to be the man we see in Seasons Four and Five.  Listen to the podcast episode for details.

16) Will we see Lolly (Lori Petty) again now that she has been transferred to the psych ward?

ANSWER: Lolly does not emerge from the psych ward during the riots of Season Five.

New Questions

1) Where and when will Season 6 begin?  Will there be a time jump? Will the Litchfield inmates be in various other prisons?  Will they return to a rebuilt prison?  Will we see all of the inmates we saw at the end of Season 5?  Will the inmates hiding by the old swimming pool, including Piper, Alex, Red, Frieda, Blanca, and others, be subjected to more stringent punishment?  Will they all survive?  Will they be captured?

2) What will happen to the guards originally left in the prison and captured by the prisoners?  What fallout, if anything, will they receive?

3) Will Piper and Alex marry in prison, and will this proposed marriage make Piper a more likable character?  Is that even possible?

4) Is this the end of Litchfield?

5) What will the fallout of the Litchfield riots be related to the company, the state, and the figureheads?  Will the company be assessed any consequences for its incompetent management of Litchfield?

6) Will there be additional crossovers with other original Netflix series – or additional crossovers with Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt?  Some of the panelists support this idea; some are less enthused with both this concept and with the crossover that occurred in Season Five.

7) Are there any prisoners, especially prisoners that the viewer has known since the beginning, for which we have not seen flashback stories?  What flashback stories will see next season?

8) What was Freida’s crime that landed her in Litchfield/prison?

9) Will the company or anyone else discover Linda, the company woman playing prisoner who is also The Worst, among the prisoners?

10) Will Flaritza, i.e. Flaca (Jackie Cruz) and Maritza, be reunited?  Will Nicky and Morello (Yael Stone)?

11) Will Daya ever get to see her baby again?


Our Orange is the New Black panel proved much more enthusiastic about the fifth season than about some of the seasons preceding it.  Some panelists even labeled this season their favorite, or one of their favorites, indicative of a fine return to form for the show.  In fact, the entire panel was both favorable and complimentary about OITNB Season Five.  The panel also, ever so slightly, continued to warm to Piper, believing that she continues to learn lessons that her real-life counterpart never had to learn because Piper Chapman makes less intelligent choices than Piper Kerman.  All in all, though, the panel reached a rare consensus of opinion, in that all panelists noted that the story trajectory, aside from a slower season beginning that appeared to lose some of the tension marking the fourth season finale, remained successful and compelling and regained the seemingly lost tension to almost “horror movie” proportions by season’s end, despite the absence of a fan and panel favorite character in Poussey.  The entire panel plans to continue to watch the show and Season Six to find out what happens, particularly in the wake of the emptying of Litchfield and the two buses that arrived to separate our formerly (and mostly) rioting characters.  Of course, the panel continues to acknowledge that the writing remains dynamic and top-notch but suggests that this season’s direction and pacing allow for better binge-watching in Season Five than in Season Four.  The panel further continues to maintain high hopes and expectations that Season Six will continue the overarching, excellent quality of storytelling that has characterized Orange is the New Black since its premiere.


Orange is the New Black was renewed for a sixth (as well as a seventh) season, which is tentatively slated to premiere in June 2018.  Until then!

The Originals, Season 4 (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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A new podcast episode of Couch Potatoes Unite!, which is based on a blog of the same name hosted at In this episode, recorded in November 2017, our panel of true CPU! originals and vampire enthusiasts – including moderator Kylie, Jen (S.), and new (to the panel not to the podcast) panelist Jenn (K.) – is Around the Water Cooler and discussing Season 4 of The Originals, including the seven-year, in-show time jump; the appearance of the Hollow, an unstoppable, soulless magical being; the emergence of now older but still young Hope, the daughter of Hayley and Klaus; and the unending reaches to which the Mikaelson siblings will go, by any means necessary, for their family. If you have not watched any of The Originals, be aware that there are MAJOR SPOILERS! Tell us what you think in the comments below and check out the blog and YouTube for other TV related discussions, in both podcast and blog format. Also, if there are other shows you’re interested in the blog covering, sound off below! Tell us what you like or don’t like. Keep the discussion going!

Editor: Kylie C. Piette
Logo: Rebecca Wallace


PODCAST! – Around the Water Cooler: “The Originals” – The Season Four Recap and Review (MAJOR SPOILERS)


Moderator: Chief Couch Potato Kylie


Who:  “The Originals” currently airs on network TV, specifically on the CW, though the show is currently on hiatus and will remain on hiatus until, likely, spring 2018.

What: “The Originals,” a spin-off of supernatural drama “The Vampire Diaries,” centers on the Original (i.e. very first) vampires, the Mikaelsons, who initially appeared on the latter show.  The surviving siblings are hybrid werewolf/vampire Niklaus (Joseph Morgan), his older brother Elijah (the super hot Daniel Gillies), and baby sister Rebekah.


In a backdoor pilot that aired during season 4 of The Vampire Diaries, the viewer learned that the Mikaelsons essentially helped to create New Orleans.  Klaus (Morgan), running from various personal dilemmas including his own ego and Mystic Falls in general, returned to New Orleans where he encountered one of his prodigal sires, specifically Marcel (Charles Michael Davis), who has taken control of the French Quarter and has declared war on other supernatural beings, including a local coven of witches.  Klaus covets Marcel’s power and hold over the city. Klaus’ brother Elijah (Gillies) follows Klaus to New Orleans, learning that a one-night stand that Klaus had with werewolf Hayley (Phoebe Tonkin) has resulted in her being mysteriously pregnant, as vampires are not known to have children.  This program follows Klaus and the other Original siblings as they work to protect their family and this unborn and unlikely child from the clutches of egomaniac Marcel, Klaus’ prized pupil, and other forces who threaten her.

When:  Season Four aired from March 17, 2017, to June 23, 2017, on the CW.

Where: The show is set in New Orleans, Louisiana.

Why: This panel, feeling TVD to be a traditionally good show with some of the same creative influence, including Executive Producer Julie Plec as well as the charismatic Morgan and Gillies, saw no reason that The Originals could not be just as juicy and delicious as the show from whence it spun.  Also, have I mentioned…vampires?  The non-sparkly kind?  Played by ridiculously handsome men? With accents?  The members of this panel were helpless to resist.

How – as in How’s It Going? (THOUGHTS…at present)

Last year, our Originals panel helped to catch CPU! up on this program by discussing seasons one, two, and three in a first episode for this panel.  To hear our thoughts, listen to the embedded link below:

Seasons 1-3

Our small but continuously robust panel, including returning panelist Jen (S.) and new (to the panel, not to the podcast) panel member Jenn (K.), reconvened to discuss the siblings Mikaelson, including noble but repressed older brother Elijah, werewolf/vampire hybrid and narcissistic middle child Klaus, and the many supporting characters that hover in their orbit.  We cover major plot points from the fourth season, following a seven-year, in-show time jump, including the appearance of the Hollow, an unstoppable, soulless magical being; the emergence of now older but still young Hope, the daughter of Hayley (Tonkin) and Klaus; and the unending reaches to which the siblings will go, by any means necessary, for their family.  Our panel’s devotion to The Originals remains relatively devout and confirmed higher and more fervent than for The Vampire Diaries, as the panelists feel that the plot of this show is more sophisticated and the situations, therefore, more adult.  Give us a listen, with your precious piece of the White Oak nearby, and see if you agree or disagree with our thoughts.

This podcast was recorded in November 2017, and there are, without question, MAJOR SPOILERS, as the panelists cover key plot points of the fourth season. Listen at your own risk, and let us know what you think by commenting below!

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Remember, new episodes and blog posts are published weekly! Next week, our Orange is the New Black panel returns to the Water Cooler after over a year’s hiatus, ready to dive into discussion about the fifth season of the wildly successful Netflix drama. Stay tuned!

Questions, Impressions, and Future Considerations

Old Questions

1) REPEAT QUESTION: If werewolves in the bayou are connected to Klaus’ biological father, and some of those werewolves are Hayley’s family, does that mean there is the possibility that Klaus and Hayley are distant cousins, generations removed, as well as parents of a new kind of hybrid? Does this fact explain the possibility of the baby?

ANSWER: How Hope came about (and what she is) remains a key question, but the show does appear to answer the first part of our repeat question during Season Four.  The Hollow, a being without a soul, comes into existence during prehistoric times in this fictional universe.  When her tribe recognizes her curious but ultimately murderous tendencies, unfazed by moral dilemmas or community mores, they attempt to bind her via an ancient spell; however, she manages to reverse the curse and, in so doing, creates the first werewolves and, in turn, the initial progenitors of the five or six werewolf families.  Since all werewolves descend from The Hollow or from her relatives, Klaus and Hayley may, very well, be distant cousins several hundred times removed.

2) REPEAT OBSERVATION: Davina (Danielle Campbell) is annoying.  Please make her go away.

ANSWER: Well…Vincent (Yusuf Gatewood) brings her back to life when, at Elijah’s bidding, he magically reestablishes the New Orleans’ witches’ connections to the ancestors.  Through her power and the encroaching power of the Hollow, Davina crosses back over to the living side of the mortal coil.  This renders Kol Mikaelson exceedingly happy, and through events that cause the Mikaelson siblings to separate by the end of the fourth season, Davina and Kol drive off into the sunset.  Is her (or his) departure permanent?  Only Season Five can answer that question.  Listen to the podcast episode for further details.

3) REPEAT QUESTION: Have I mentioned that Tyler Lockwood, Klaus’ erstwhile hybrid sire from The Vampire Diaries, in a mission to defeat Klaus, stopped by the bayou – not without ending his sweet and saccharine relationship with Caroline Forbes on TVD? Except – he left again.  Where did he go? He hasn’t returned to Mystic Falls.  Why is this character a part-time character on either show at best?

ANSWER: Tyler (Michael Trevino) stops by Mystic Falls during the final season of The Vampire Diaries just long enough to confront Damon (Ian Somerhalder), who is under the spell of Devil Cade and without his emotion/humanity switch engaged.  Damon proceeds to off Tyler.  So, Tyler as a character seems pretty done-zo, unless some magical being wills him back into existence on this program.

4) Will baby Hope be the savior that helps her father Klaus (currently stabbed by Marcel to an incapacitated state with the knife of perpetual torment), and her uncles Elijah and Kol and aunt Rebekah, to survive their various fates, spelled away with the help of Freya (Riley Voelkel), after the machinations of Marcel (Davis) rendered them near death?

ANSWER: In actuality, the combined efforts of Hayley and Freya and even of little Hope restore each of the Mikaelsons from their various fates, either magical sleep to slow death or, in the case of Klaus, incapacity by the Bone of Torment (it’s not a knife, actually).  Hayley charges Freya to obtain venom from members of each of the major werewolf packs/families for a spell that awakens Elijah, Rebekah, and Kol, while Klaus fights for lucid consciousness and is eventually rescued by his siblings.

5) Are Cami and Davina (SPOILER) officially and permanently dead?  If they aren’t, how could they possibly come back?

ANSWER: Cami (Leah Pipes) is officially and permanently dead, so far.  She appears in this season only once, as a figment of Klaus’ starved imagination while under the influence of Marcel’s Bone of Torment.  Davina was dead, but Vincent magically resurrects her.

6) Will Kol and his portraying actor be made a series regular in season four?  The panel, particularly CPU! Chief Kylie, votes yes.

ANSWER: Nathaniel Buzolic, Kol’s portraying actor, was not made a series regular in Season Four.  He recurred.

7) Will there be a seven-year time jump, as Allie seems to have learned from some comic con panels?  If so, where will we find our characters after that time?

ANSWER: The foretold seven-year time jump starts off this season.  After seven years, Elijah, Rebekah, and Kol Mikaelson are still in a cursed sleep state.  Klaus is stabbed by the Bone of Torment and is confined to a salt circle underneath Cami’s former bar and Marcel’s watchful – and boastful – eye.  Marcel rules the city alone.  Hayley cares for Hope and seeks a cure for the slumbering siblings; Freya assists this process.

8) What is Hope really: a vampire, a werewolf, a witch, a hybrid, or a combination of any of the above?

ANSWER: She is at least a witch, confirmed via demonstration of her magical abilities in Season Four.  The rest of her constitution remains a mystery.

9) Will Hayley and Elijah just give into each other?  The smoldering sexual tension is sexy but head-scratching in how they work so hard to resist each other.

ANSWER: Temporarily, Hayley and Elijah couple in all senses of the word in the fourth season, until Elijah nearly loses his life in sacrifice for Vincent to magically stop the onslaught of the Hollow.  Though Freya saves Elijah’s soul using the amulet that once housed oldest Mikaelson brother Finn, the amulet shatters, and Elijah’s consciousness is broken among the amulet pieces.  Freya and Hope cast a spell that allows Hayley to enter Elijah’s broken mind, but she is frightened to discover that Elijah has sought refuge behind the infamous red door, the memory wall that exists to shield noble-aiming Elijah from his worst sins as an Original vampire.  This frightens Hayley so much that, even after Elijah is restored to life and regains full control of his faculties, Hayley cannot find her way back to feeling safe or comfortable around the traditionally safer Mikaelson brother, who does seem to come back to life with a bit more of a vicious edge about him.  Listen to the podcast episode for details.

New Questions

1) Will the Mikaelson vampire siblings – now housing each of four Bones of Torment which are, in fact, the skeletal remains of the Hollow’s former vessel and are far separated, as a coming together of those Bones will reconstitute the Hollow to an unstoppable state – be reunited?  How?  Will Hope save them this time?

2) At Elijah’s request, Vincent casts a spell to remove the influence of the Mikaelson family motto, “Always and Forever,” from Elijah’s mind, which the eldest living Mikaelson brother has taken so seriously throughout his long, un-dead life, doing so has cost him his happiness and sense of independence from his family, as he is the sibling that runs most to save the others.  How will the absence of the influence of that trigger affect Elijah in the final season?  Will Klaus attempt to reach him to bring him back into the Mikaelson fold?

3) What is Hope?  How did Hayley even come to have her in the first place, since vampires do not often produce babies the old fashioned way (Klaus was a hybrid werewolf/vampire at the time of conception)?

4) Will the Mikaelsons have to fight the Hollow in the end?  Will Marcel, now forgiven by Klaus and reunited with Rebekah, join the fight?

5) Will Kol and Davina return?

6) Will the Originals survive their series?  Will they be forced to face the consequences of their millennium of vampire misdeeds?  Or, will they all find happy endings?

7) What will Klaus do to keep busy during this separation?  Will he visit Caroline Forbes (Candice King) from The Vampire Diaries in Mystic Falls and at Alaric’s new school for special children? Press releases have suggested that Caroline will appear in the final season of The Originals.  Will she recur or become a series regular?  Will she and Klaus actually, finally, get together?  The panel mostly supports this coupling, though not necessarily with tons of excitement.

8) How will Marcel and Rebekah live out their part of the separation?

9) What will Freya do to keep busy during this separation?  We suspect that she will most actively seek a spell to bring down the Hollow, with Vincent’s help, if such a spell should exist.

10) How will the series end?  Panelist Jenn K. reports that producers are forecasting another time jump, ten years into the future, to start the fifth season, in which the viewer will see a teenager version of Hope.  Who will play her, and what will Hope have become to Hayley and to everyone during that time?

11) Will Hayley have to sacrifice herself to save Hope, who may yet be threatened by the Hollow?  Will Klaus?  Will either Hayley or Klaus end up a single parent?

12) Will Hayley and Elijah end up together?


The Originals, though not the twisty soap opera characterizing its parent program, remains engaging, superior television, spinning an epic and seductive tale with increasingly engaging acting and beautiful actors doing the work.  The writers have created a steamy and sophisticated mix of horror, revenge fantasy, and romance, capitalizing on all of the best elements of vampire lore, while providing a considerably more adult direction for this spin-off of angst-driven The Vampire Diaries and an unusual spin on the usual vampire fantasy.  The story still does its best in being grand and twisty, though, and completely accessible to anyone who has not watched TVD.  The panel greets the final season of The Originals with some mixed feelings of sadness and relief, though all participating panelists believe that the show has become far better than The Vampire Diaries in fewer seasons, owing to the stellar portrayals of the family Mikaelson and the intriguing relationships between the familial characters on the series.


The Originals was renewed for a fifth and final season; as of the date of the publication of this episode, no premiere date has yet been announced, though all signs point to a spring return.  The Originals podcast panel will next reconvene, a final time, following the series finale of this spin-off, which will likely air in or around June 2018.  As always, CPU! will keep you informed of news and additional Originals coverage.  Until then!

A Series of Unfortunate Events, Season One (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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A new podcast episode of Couch Potatoes Unite!, which is based on a blog of the same name hosted at  In this episode, recorded in November 2017, our panel of veteran CPU! panelists and Unfortunate TV fans – including moderator Nick, Kristen, Kelsey, Jenn, Selene, and Kylie – is Around the Water Cooler and discussing Season 1 of Unfortunate hit and Netflix original A Series of Unfortunate Events. If you have not watched any of said Unfortunate Events, be aware that there are MAJOR SPOILERS! Tell us what you think in the comments below and check out the blog and YouTube for other TV related discussions, in both podcast and blog format. Also, if there are other shows you’re interested in the blog covering, sound off below! Tell us what you like or don’t like. Keep the discussion going!

Editor: Kylie C. Piette
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PODCAST! – Streaming Originals & Pilots, Premieres, and First Looks: “A Series of Unfortunate Events” – The Season One Recap (MAJOR SPOILERS)

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Moderated by: Nick


Who: “A Series of Unfortunate Events” is an American black comedy-drama television series developed by Mark Hudis and Barry Sonnenfeld, which is based upon the children’s novel series of the same name authored by Lemony Snicket.

What: “A Series of Unfortunate Events,” the first season, consists of eight episodes and adapts the first four books of Lemony Snicket’s series. It stars Neil Patrick Harris, Patrick Warburton, Malina Weissman, Louis Hynes, K. Todd Freeman, and Presley Smith.

When: The first season of the series was released in its entirety to the Netflix streaming library on January 13, 2017.

Where: The action takes place in various fictional locales, not always specifically named, but always housing the Baudelaire children’s (Weissman, Hynes, and Smith) “closest, living relatives.” Geographically speaking, that is.

Why: To find out why individual podcast panelists started watching this show, listen to the podcast episode via the link below.

How – as in How Was It?

The pilot/premiere rating scale:


**** – Well, it certainly seems intriguing. I’m going to keep watching, but I see possible pitfalls in the premise.

*** – I will give it six episodes and see what happens. There are things I like, and things I don’t. We’ll see which “things” are allowed to flourish.

** – I will give it three episodes. Chances are, I’m mainly bored, but there is some intrigue or fascination that could hold it together. No matter how unlikely.

* – Pass on this one, guys. It’s a snoozer/not funny/not interesting/not my cup of tea… there are too many options to waste time on this one.

A Series of Unfortunate Events = 3.8, by average of the podcast panel.


When a mysterious fire kills their parents, the Baudelaire children are placed into the care of their distant relative Count Olaf (Harris), an actor who is determined to claim the family fortune for himself. Following Olaf’s initial failed attempt to do so, the Baudelaires set out to elude Olaf and to uncover the mystery behind a secret society from their parents’ past.

How – as in How Was It? – THOUGHTS

Frequent CPU! contributors and panelists often suggest shows for CPU! to cover in our podcast episodes – loyal listeners should have picked up on this particular trend by now. Well, when streaming service Netflix (they owe us free subscriptions, we think!) decided to adapt Lemony Snicket’s acclaimed book series, this time in a television/long-form format as opposed to a feature film, at least one frequent CPU!er became decidedly atwitter and began encouraging Lemony Snicket podcast coverage in short order.  In addition, while Chief CP Kylie enjoys the film adaptation from 2004 starring Jim Carrey and Meryl Streep, my passion for the television series adapting same, despite the presence of fan favorite NPH, did not quite reach the same heights as some of tonight’s panelists’.

As it turns out, I find the show interesting, with an interesting mystery and a fun visual pastiche, but I think I lack passion for it. Frequent contributor and panelist Nick, on the other hand, abounds in said passion.  In fact, it was Nick, specifically, who saw an opportunity for a CPU! episode “around the water cooler” discussing the newest telling of the Streaming Original Series of Unfortunate Events. Thus, herein we offer our Season One recap, with the Chief CP stepping aside from the moderating microphone, so that Nick may serve as main moderator with the kind of passion these unfortunate events deserve. I instead participate as a regular old panelist to remark upon the unfortunate-ness of the whole affair. Nick and I are, in turn, joined by frequent CPU! panelists Kristen, Kelsey, Selene, and Jenn for this probing, passionate, and, at times, pithy discussion about the Baudelaires and their trials and tribulations.

This podcast was recorded in November 2017 and there are, without question, MAJOR SPOILERS, as we cover major plot points throughout the first season of A Series of Unfortunate Events. Listen at your own risk, and let us know what you think by commenting below!

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A Series of Unfortunate Events is universally recommended by all of our panelists, despite a wide variety of opinions about, and individual receptions toward, the series.  The panel particularly recommends Lemony Snicket’s Unfortunate Events to fans of the original book series; of the 2004 film adaptation of same; of Neil Patrick Harris and of Patrick Warburton, who portray Count Olaf and Mr. Snicket, respectively, and do so with flourish and aplomb; and to fans of the type of dark, sardonic humor offered by the likes of Tim Burton or Barry Sonnenfeld, the latter of whom is credited as a creator and an executive producer of this series.  Panelists Kelsey and Selene recommend this program for family viewing along with young children, while Chief CP Kylie, the only true member of Gen X on this panel, cautions that the series may be more palatable to Millennials and younger generations, who had a chance to grow up with the original series of children’s books and who might relate to the program more easily, despite the fact that the erstwhile Doogie Howser MD plays a lead character.  The panelists universally praise the visual presentation and technical aspects of the show, even as they offer wide-ranging reactions to the story/adaptation execution and to the overall direction.  Still, all panelists look forward to what Season Two might bring in terms of not only ironing out the kinks in story presentation but also of sprinkling in further clues to help our eager set of viewers solve the unfortunate mystery of this series of events.


A Series of Unfortunate Events was quickly renewed for a second season, though a tentative release date has not yet been announced by Netflix, except that Season Two will likely drop in early 2018.  As always, CPU! will keep you informed of all Lemony Snicket coverage, and this panel will, as such, likely return some time after the release of Season 2 to recap the new season. Until then!

PODCAST! – Around the Water Cooler: “New Girl,” the Season Six Recap (MAJOR SPOILERS)


Moderated by Chief Couch Potato Kylie


Who: “New Girl” airs on network TV, specifically on Fox, (typically) fall to spring Tuesdays.  Season Seven, the series’ upcoming final season, will not premiere until 2018.

What: “New Girl,” a situation comedy about goofy but lovable teacher (some have described her as ‘adorkable’) Jessica Day (Zooey Deschanel), who, after finding out that her boyfriend cheated on her, answers a Craig’s List ad and ends up living in a loft with three others guys, including metrosexual, yuppie womanizer Schmidt (Max Greenfield); grumpy but down-to-earth bartender Nick (Jake Johnson); and eccentric but loyal radio producer Winston (Lamorne Morris).  Also interwoven into this mix is Jess’ childhood friend CeCe (Hannah Simone), a deadpan model who has more street smarts than Jess but tends to make poorer choices (for a more detailed Synopsis, read here:

When: Season Six aired from September 20, 2016, to April 4, 2017, on Fox.

Where: The show is set in Los Angeles, California, primarily in the loft itself.

Why: Chief CP Kylie found this show on Netflix, having had some interest in it when it was first advertised because I love Zooey Deschanel, but for some reason, I wasn’t able to catch it when it was on, and I didn’t place priority on it because it seemed like an updated rehashing of Friends for the Millennial generation.  Yet, so many people, both trusted friends and critics alike, said it was funny; therefore, once it became available on Netflix, I binge watched the first two seasons before watching it in real – or almost real – time. For this latest CPU! podcast episode, a changed complement of fellow New Girl fans joined me around the water cooler to recap New Girl Season Six.

How – as in How’s It Going? (THOUGHTS…at present)

CPU! previously covered New Girl in both blog and podcast format.  To catch up on prior coverage, click some handy hyper or otherwise embedded links for your reading and listening pleasure, provided below:

Season 3: Read here

Seasons 4 & 5

We experienced a roster change on this panel since our last episode.  CPU! Panelist Kelsey departed this panel, having essentially jumped the shark on the show, at least for podcast purposes (though she remains on other active CPU! panels, specifically Supernatural, The Vampire Diaries, and The 100)Kristen, however, returns to the Water Cooler to continue chatting about this sitcom and is now joined by frequent CPU! regular Sarah for this episode, in which we cover Season Six of New Girl.

Our small but robust panel of True Americans ultimately struggles through the latest season’s antics of Jess, Nick, Schmidt, Winston, and CeCe.  We cover notable situations from the sixth season, as the show continues to toy with the compatibility and ongoing sexual tension between Nick and Jess, explores the relative diversity of tastes of newlyweds Schmidt and CeCe, and evolves the strange but no less endearing coupling of Winston and Aly.  Our panel’s particular level of devotion to this quirky sitcom is definitely on the wane, which we discuss at length in the embedded episode below, though we are both excited by and hopeful for the epilogue eight episodes of Season Seven, green-lit by the Fox network and slated to premiere in 2018.

This particular episode was recorded in September 2017, and there are, without question, MAJOR SPOILERS, as the panelists cover key plot points, comedic situations, jokes, and sight gags of Season Six of New Girl. Listen at your own risk, and let us know what you think by commenting below!

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Remember, new episodes and blog posts are published weekly!  Next Wednesday, a new panel visits the Water Cooler to discuss a Netflix original series, an adaptation of a popular series of young adult novels, namely A Series of Unfortunate Events, moderated by frequent CPU! panelist Nick!  Stay tuned!

Questions, Impressions, and Future Considerations
Old Questions
1) What will CeCe and Schmidt’s marriage look like?
ANSWER: Surprisingly functional.  Despite the fact that they do not apparently have enough money to buy decent property in Los Angeles – and, really, who does? – and despite the fact that Schmidt’s interior design taste is impeccable, while CeCe’s could use some of Schmidt’s guidance (as long as he acknowledges her desires and choices), this couple works well together and remains interesting, even though they are married on a sitcom.  Plus – SPOILER – they find themselves on the brink of family expansion!  All this is to say that Schmidt and CeCe’s marriage is decidedly: normal.
2) Will Winston and Aly’s romance last?  Can they have a spin-off?  They’re too cute.
ANSWER: If engagement means lasting romance, then the answer is yes!  Winston proposes to Aly – he begins a multi-part plan (is it 21 parts?) to implement this proposal until Jess coaches him away from that approach.  Her persuasion, in addition to the usual comedic, complicated circumstances following Winston’s next-level awkwardness, do not prevent Winston from dressing up in a furry costume to memorialize how Winston and Aly first met, of course, since the proposal had to be all Winston in the end.
3) Is Megan Fox coming back for season six to play Reagan?  (Can she not?) Are we really about to watch a love triangle between Jess, Nick, and Reagan?
ANSWER: Sadly, she did.  Sadly, we did.  Fortunately, as Nick manages to complete his first novel with characters drawn heavily from his own subconscious, he soon realizes – and by soon, I mean by the end of the season – that he and Reagan do not belong together, while he and Jess do.  He tries to abandon Reagan on a train, of course, in his all-Nick fashion.  Fortunately, Reagan receives a huge promotion at her pharmaceutical company, so she appears to be officially copacetic with the breakup and officially gone for good.  To that, Kylie the Chief CP says, “Good riddance!”
4) If Jess and Nick get back together, can it be new and fresh?  The panel says: “will they or won’t they, and just move on!”
ANSWER: Still a question.  Jess and Nick’s inevitable re-coupling literally occurs within the final few minutes of the final episode of the season.  What is more, in this upcoming epilogue seventh season, the show is going to time jump to three years into the future.  So…what is “new and fresh,” eh?  Perhaps, with only eight episodes officially left to air, it no longer matters.
5) Will CeCe and Schmidt get pregnant?
ANSWER: Yes! In the final episode of the season, we learn, and so does the whole loft through what could only be construed as several violations of HIPAA, that CeCe is pregnant.  They are both elated, and so are we all.
6) Will Nick and Jess hook up and get pregnant?  Or experience a pregnancy scare?
ANSWER: Nick and Jess do not have any romantic entanglements, of an accidental or on purpose nature, until the final episode of the season – so no hook-ups and no potential baby-making consequences of said hook-ups.  Though Nick as a scared potential new father is still a legitimate story idea for the show, who knows what we will be watching in Season Seven?
7) What happened to the apartment down the hall?  Does Schmidt own it?  Are CeCe and Schmidt going to move into it?
ANSWER: Schmidt presumably sold that puppy when he and CeCe bought Jaipur Aviv, their quaint LA fixer upper, because that apartment faded out of the picture faster than Coach.
8) What is Schmidt’s first name already?!
ANSWER: In an anticlimactic reveal that feels mostly like lazy writing, according to universal consensus of the podcast panel, Schmidt’s first name is – drum roll, please – Winston…  Via a decision made in college, as Winston Bishop is the original Winston, Schmidt decided to go by “Schmidt” to avoid confusion.  Of course, this season, he wants to drop the pretenses when he receives a promotion at work and to aspire to loftier nomenclature.  No one is more chagrined than Winston Bishop, except for maybe the CPU! New Girl panel.
New Questions
1) With an impending time jump, where will all of our characters be as the final eight episodes commence? Will Nick and Jess be together still?  Will Nick and Jess get married?  Will Winston and Aly still be together?  Will we see their wedding, or are we bypassing Winston’s inevitable nuptials?  What will CeCe and Schmidt’s adorable child be, look like, and be named?  Will they get pregnant again?
2) Will Jess still be principal of the hippie new age school?
3) Will CeCe’s Boys be a successful modeling agency?  Will she take care of the children, or…?
4) …Will Schmidt quit his high-powered ad executive job and be a stay-at-home dad?
5) Will Winston and Aly still be police officers?
6) What will happen to the loft?
7) Will Ferguson still be kickin’ it, for feline realz, y’all?
8) Will Coach return for any part of this next season?
9) Will we see any old and/or beloved recurring characters?
10) How will the series end?
For this panel of New Girl fans, the “adorkable” Jess and her lofty pals still bring some laughs but not as freshly or as often as they did when this sitcom premiered.  Even though this show started as a contemporary and relevant situation comedy that mixes a few atypical character archetypes into a wildly flavorful (and crunchy) salad of laughs, the lettuce has been wilting since Nick and Jess’ pairing in season three, as the story toyed with coupling Jess and Nick for such an ultimately short-lived and unsatisfying period. The marriage of CeCe and Schmidt offers an interesting new dynamic to the group, especially since they continue to be present in the loft in the sixth season while renovations of their new house commence, but the writers and executive producers still have the uphill task of keeping the show feeling new and interesting, especially as the network ordered the upcoming final, truncated season to tie off loose ends.  In fact, some subtle signs of staleness and boredom from repetitive and routine storytelling have definitely settled in, as the panel notes in this podcast episode; the mission of the writers is to give this talented cast of performers and the characters they portray something more intelligent to do in the final season and to end the series on the highest and most feel-good note possible for these five quirky but enjoyably entertaining friends.

New Girl was renewed for an eight-episode Season 7, which will be its final season. The season premiere date has not yet been announced.  CPU! will revisit New Girl following the airing of Season Seven with a combined recap of the seventh season and a retrospective “Looking Back” discussion.  Stay tuned to CPU! for future New Girl coverage and announcements as they become available.