Moderator: Chief Couch Potato Kylie
Who: The DC Television Universe or DCTU Series Panel – Kyle, Hilary, Spencer, Kristen, and Nick – plus Chief CP Kylie as moderator.
What: “Arrow,” “The Flash,” “DC’s Legends of Tomorrow,” and “Supergirl,” the four shows that comprise the so-called “Arrowverse” on the CW, otherwise known as the DC (Comics) Television Universe or DCTU.
- Arrow airs Thursdays at 9:00 PM; Season Six premiered on October 12, 2017.
- The Flash airs Tuesdays at 8:00 PM; Season Four premiered on October 10, 2017.
- DC’s Legends of Tomorrow aired Tuesdays at 9:00 PM (in 2017); Season Three premiered on October 10, 2017.
- Supergirl airs Mondays at 8:00 PM; Season Three premiered on October 9, 2017.
Where: The action is primarily set in the DC Comics Universe, specifically in Star City (Arrow), Central City (The Flash), National City (Supergirl), and throughout space and time (“Legends”).
Why: To find out why individual podcast panelists started watching each of these shows, listen to our DCTU series in full by clicking the floating box at the top right of our website header, the picture of the couch full of TV watchers, to search for all of the prior DCTU series episodes. As for why we are covering four shows at once (for now), read on!
How – as in How Busy Are We? – THOUGHTS
This is the eleventh episode in CPU!’s DCTU series. Because we have reached double digits for this massive series, from here on out, we are only going to embed prior episodes from the immediately previous season at mid-season or only the previous episodes of the show in particular that we are covering if we covering any of the series individually, which you can listen to for reference in advance of the current podcast episode. All of our episodes, however, are searchable here at the website or, for audio-only types, you can find our page at our file host, the Internet Archive (archive.org), which has all of our episodes compiled in one handy menu. It’s pretty nice, actually. If you feel so inclined, please also donate to the Archive, so garage podcasts like your humble CPU! can continue to thrive. For now, here are the DCTU series episodes since the DCTU 2017 Mid-Season Roundup:
DCTU Series, Episode 6, the DCTU 2017 Mid-Season Roundup
DCTU Series, Episode 7, “DC’s Legends of Tomorrow,” Season Two
DCTU Series, Episode 8, “Supergirl,” Season Two
DCTU Series, Episode 9, “The Flash,” Season Three
DCTU Series, Episode 10, “Arrow,” Season Five
In this episode, our cheeky and feisty and full and otherwise busy DCTU panel was subjected to (now for) something completely different – again – here at CPU! We decided to check in with each other in advance of this season’s end, when we will visit each show’s current season in four episodes, one for each show, by rounding up our thoughts so far about all of the Arrowverse shows, only this time we are talking together instead of separately and are not playing (exactly) our nerdy “Newlywed Game,” as we did last year. We do play one game, and it reaches our usual level of spiciness and hi-jinks, but you know me – I don’t want to oversell it!! Our panelists then, during this short mid-season hiatus, talk about their current, sometimes cursory, assessment of the progress of Season Six of Arrow, Season Four of The Flash, and Season Three of DC’s Legends of Tomorrow and Supergirl. Give us a listen below, and let us know if you agree or disagree with our thoughts!
This particular CPU! episode was recorded in January 2018, and there are, without question, MAJOR SPOILERS, as the panelists cover key plot points of the current seasons of all four Arrowverse shows. Listen at your own risk, and let us know what you think by commenting below!
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Remember, new episodes and blog posts are published weekly! Next week, our DCTU panel returns to the CPU! water cooler for a special, bonus, specially recorded, specially requested episode during which we discuss the Arrowverse’s mega crossover television movie event, “Crisis on Earth X,” for which we “saved” discussion about said crossover specifically for this specially special bonus episode, as you will hear advertised throughout tonight’s episode. Stay tuned!
Questions, Impressions, and Future Considerations
(New Questions Only; All Questions, New and Old, Will Be Addressed End of Season)
1) What is Cayden James’ (Michael Emerson) end game on Arrow?
2) For how long will Roy Harper/Arsenal (Colton Haynes) be back on Arrow, since his return to the show was announced in the media?
3) Did Warner Brothers/DC truly retract Arrow’s ability to use the character of Deathstroke again due to the Justice League film? Is Manu Bennett gone indefinitely again?
4) Will Oliver Queen/Green Arrow (Stephen Amell) end up having to stand trial for being the Green Arrow?
5) Will Barry Allen/The Flash (Grant Gustin) emerge from his framing for murder by The Thinker unscathed? The panel believes that he will end up in the ARGUS/Iron Heights facility for some time as the Thinker originally seemed to intend, but what is The Thinker trying to do?
6) Why does Amunet (Katee Sackhoff) matter at all? The panel finds her somewhat lame, and panelist Spencer takes special issue with her accent.
7) Will Harry Wells (Tom Cavanaugh) have to square off against The Thinker in his new, BrainStorm meta-body?
8) For how long will John Constantine (Matt Ryan) be on DC’s Legends of Tomorrow?
9) The media spoiled the intention to have Wally West/Kid Flash (Keiynan Lonsdale) join “Legends,” at least temporarily, in the near future. For how long? What will be his purpose?
10) Why are the “Legends” writers exploring the Vixen (Maisie Richardson-Sellers) story line on “Legends,” in the way they are exploring it, when the animated version seems to parallel the live-action version, only with Amaya’s granddaughter Mari at the fore?
11) Will the baby Dominator that young Ray Palmer/The Atom (Brandon Routh) met as a child reappear as an adult and encounter adult Ray/the Legends again?
12) What is Damien Dahrk (Neal McDonough) trying to do on “Legends?” How is he related to Mallus, the demonic presence?
13) Will Constantine and Dahrk have to square off? Will Zari (Tala Ashe) and Amaya have to square off against Mallus?
14) What did the Time Bureau do with Rip (Arthur Darvill)?
15) Will Superman (Tyler Loechlin) have to help Supergirl (Melissa Benoist) fight off Reign (Odette Annable)?
16) Why is the show changing the Martian Manhunter (David Harewood) story so much? Are the extra Martians real? Where is the story involving Manhunter’s father going?
17) What will Reign do to National City and to Earth 38 now that she is “awake?”
18) Will we see anymore crossovers between the four shows (aside from Wally West) this season?
19) For how much longer will Captain/Citizen Cold (Wentworth Miller) hang out in the Arrowverse?
The panel universally agrees that The Flash has improved this season and remains the head of the pack of this multi-verse of four series, offering a far and away better quality superhero adaptation experience than the other three DC entries on the CW. The show about the Scarlet Speedster boasts consistently entertaining humor, a tight ensemble cast that works well together, and a fun new (old) villain in The Thinker. The panel wavered regarding how they feel about the other three shows. Some panelists like Supergirl better, while others like “Legends,” and most of the panelists, with the notable exceptions of Chief CP Kylie and Spencer, pronounced and emphasized their individual struggles maintaining interest in Arrow. The show about the Emerald Archer similarly struggles to find new ways to challenge Green Arrow and his team, as the Arrow series writers appear to continue to recycle story-lines and to squander story potential, given Team Arrow’s seemingly and relatively easy escape from the exploding island of Lian Yu. In any event, the panel is generally enjoying the four shows’ current seasons (Arrow aside, more or less) and is looking forward to what the second halves of each of the series’ seasons might bring to our collective viewing experiences.
The four Arrowverse shows will return from their mid-season hiatuses as follows:
Supergirl: Monday, January 14, 2018, 8:00 PM
The Flash: Tuesday, January 15, 2018, 8:00 PM
Arrow: Thursday, January 18, 2018, 9:00 PM
DC’s Legends of Tomorrow: Monday, February 12, 2018, 8:00 PM (Black Lightning is premiering in “Legends'” regular time slot; “Legends” will finish out its season in Supergirl’s time slot, and Supergirl will go on a second hiatus during this shuffle).
No announcements regarding any series renewal/cancellation ahead of next season have yet been made, as the Arrowverse was, earlier this fall, rocked with scandal with the discharge of Executive Producer Andrew Kreisberg in the wake of sexual harassment allegations levied against him. Renewals for Arrow, The Flash, and Supergirl are generally and confidently expected, while “Legends” hovers nearer to the cancellation bubble. In the meantime, the DCTU podcast panel will next convene around the CPU! water cooler at season’s end, releasing four new episodes throughout summer 2018, one for each show, to recap the current season in full. Until then! Stay tuned!